Type 81 (C) it doesn’t make sense now on this BR with the current new AA where it is drawn. where before the vehicle can target anything, the new launchers are already firing several rockets.
I think 10.3 - 10.7 is the maximum where this vehicle should be
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ah how the times change.
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When it come out it was 10.0 now its 11.7 and useless . Even Strela has better turn with 20g only big difference is type 81c missile range is longer but apart from that, Strela is much better than Type 81 in every aspect.
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Type 81C has 35G max overload and is flat out better than the Strela in every possible metric except maybe crew protection (wow), idk why you’d pretend otherwise.
It’s insanely dumb for 0.3 BR you also get a radar vehicle and another Tan SAM, they should just downtier it to 11.0/11.3 and let Japan have something nice to run with the Type 90s.
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Type 81 SAM-1C is better in every aspect, being the best infra-red missile in a ground vehicle in-game currently, has decent range on a fairly mobile platform, 9M37M is no competition.
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We have IRIS-Ts now
In fact, though it don’t uses guidance from radar, but yes, you’re right.
even with a step down to that we have AIM-9X
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Ngl it could have stayed at 11.3, where it would make the most sense, at least for now as there is no way something like IRIS-T and al. are just a mere step above it in BR placement. The only reason behind making Type 81 11.7 was to make an artificially forced line-up with TKX (P) which was placed at 11.7 instead of 11.3. The decision was really dumb, as of now to play Type 90s in GRB you have either obsolete Type 93 with its mighty 10G missiles or uptier’ing yourself to 11.7, facing a much worse competition in both ground and air aspects.
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You couldn’t be more wrong actually.
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Comparing the vehicles, Type 81 C takes the crown with the strela being super close. Only limit is range and vulnerablity. But in different Br, Strela has an easier time facing CAS since its not facing Constant global CAS like the Type 81 C is.
Truly believe the Type 81 C needs to be at 11.3, which was still useful when some CAS still require to fly close and few can fire far away still. 11.7 it wont reach constant global CAS or even stop AGMs. Majority of the CAS is all distant, very very few fly close.
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Type 81 (C) BR should be increased, because we need decompression. 13.0 should be the new top tier. Type 81 (C) could go to 12.0 and Tan-SAM kai to 12.7 (currently, only IRIS-T SLM can be considered a 13.0 SPAA).
- Cool, the classic “do nothing because we need decompression”, nothing can be done in the interim to make the game better
- When I think of vehicles causing problems through the BR Cap the Type 81 isn’t one of them, if anything lower the thing because because it shouldn’t see AASM-20s/Kh-38s at all
Sure, better make it reserve to be safe.
You didn’t understand a thing, did you? What in my reply sounds to you that I want nothing to be done? ‘‘We need decompression’’ sounds like I want nothing to be done?
Lowering a BR of one vehicle would solve nothing because everything at top tier - no, everything above 8.0 is so insanely decompressed. Decompressing the ground RB BRs to 13.0 would give a whole 3 BR levels to adjust vehicles based on their performance much more.
Still sounds like nothing?
Because without decompression; “do nothing” is exactly what you said
The alternative is you want the Type 81C to be the same BR as the TAN-Sam TADS/TEL system
You hear, but you don’t listen. Lowering the BR of one vehicle makes the vehicle’s life a bit easier, but utlimately solves nothing and the game will never be any less miserable. That’s why we shouldn’t focus on adjusting the BRs with the current 12.0 cap but increase the cap to 13.0 and adjust accordingly, because the 12.0 cap is the core issue.
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Inference.
It flat out gives the Type 90s a viable SPAA instead of slumming it with the Type 93. If you want to experience miserable try using the Type 93 this high.
The immediate issue is the Type 81C is overtiered.
And without your decompression; we do nothing.
With decompression, the Type 90 and Type 81 might be on the same BR again. That’s what decompression allows.
The immediate issue just for this one vehicle, not for the whole damn game. Putting vehicles lower just because they are currently overtiered only makes the compression worse. That’s what decompression is for, to solve this issue and make EVERYONE’S experience better.
take a look at the thread title
I’m sure 10.3 ground vehicles would be just unplayable with the Type 81 at 11.3