Honestly, not surprised to see the ITP go to 4.7 in AB, but for more times than I can actually count, the Bf 109’s AGAIN, not a single version is getting their BR raised. This is beyond all understanding and shows that no one that actually plays this game also works on the BR changes. Completely baffling. Bf 109 F-4’s are at or near the top of every single game I see them being played in, and nothing. It is not possible that every single German plane player simply goes head on and gets croaked that often . . . not mathematically possible . . … I wouldn’t think . . . lol.
Here is a list that could be used:
Bf 109 E-1 - 2.7
Bf 109 E-3 - 3.0
Bf 109 E-4 - 3.3
Bf 109 F-1 - 3.7
Bf 109 F-2 - 4.0
Bf 109 F-4 - 4.7 (trop)
Bf 109 F-4 - 5.0
and to show I am not hating on Germany(I play these same planes myself!)
P-51 early - 5.0
there are a lot of other low tier planes, almost all having 20mm cannons that should go up as well, like the Yak-1 for example. Far too many OP low tier planes wrecking havoc on new players that
barely have decent rifle calibre guns and cannot do much of anything against such planes, even at the lower tiers. Just hard to understand how the move so many tanks(especially for Germany) down to tier II so no one can use them to do tasks and these planes are just overlooked all the time.
Like how can the Swedish 21 “push planes” go from 4.0 BR to 5.0/5.3 and not even 1 step is given to the Bf 109 F-4. As an avid and long time AB Air guy, I just cannot see any justification for this, no data can explain this . . . people who play these BRs regularly can tell you that the 109’s are just straight up under BR’d and this just shows no one is watching this . . . . . kind of amazing
I think the entire community can agree that there would literally be no downsides to bringing the maximum BR spread to 0.7 instead of 1.0, we have constantly player counts above 100 000 players, everyone would rather wait an extra one or two seconds and have a far more balanced match than the current state of matchmaking.
Air SIM : Introduce more rotations for 11.0/11.3 being top tier,otherwise F14s going to clean house .
Agreed, This seems like blatant negligence.
Then just don’t give it anything and put it 10.0,…
Agreed the F-84s with airspawns are brutal and hilariously unbalanced earlygame. And the F-89 has firepower, speed and an absurd climb rate on its side yet for the sole reason of it not being a turnfighter it’s somehow at 7.0. At the same BR as a spitfire. A SPITFIRE! Nevermind how the Spit Mk24 has no place at 7.0, the fact that a plane with twice its top speed and twice its climb rate is at the same BR for the sole reason that the pilots of it keep trying to turnfight things they have no business doing so with, instead of exploiting their colossal energy advantages, is silly.
Completely agree. It is already over-tiered for its performance somewhat at 9.0, putting it at 9.3 will make it completely redundant.
Cannot wait for this, playing 11.3 will be soo much more enjoyable not facing irccm aim9m or r73
Glad to see sim is getting the needed attention and BR bracket adjustments. However 1 big change is needed for the higer up brackets.
Rotation 3 higher BR bracket should be 10.0 to 11.0 and rotation 4 should be 9.7 to 10.7
This will be the best and fair way gor 11.0 planes to get their fair chance as top tier. 9.7 to 10.3 is to tight a spread and for every civen BR cycle 10.3 would be top twice
What variant?
P-51 A/B/C?
I agree with most except the F-5E. It was suffering because 12.0 was the max BR and now it’s 12.7.
The thing is the best jet under 11.0 right now and mops the floor with most everything.
For Air Realistic Only
- USA
XP-50: 4.0 → 4.3 (Or Remove Air Spawn).
P-51 D10/D20NA: 4.3 (Keep same BR).
F8F-1: 5.0 → 5.3
B-57 (Series): 8.3 → 8.0
F-5C: 10.3 → 10.7
F-5E: 10.7 → 11.0 (good to see in current BR list). - GERMANY
Bf 109 Z-1: 4.7 → 4.3 (Or give low Alt air spawn). - USSR
Yak-3: 4.0 → 4.3
EDIT:(MY BAD IT IS ALREADY 4.3) - BRITAIN
Wyvern S4: 4.3 → 4.7 (Or Remove Air Spawn).
Strikemaster: 6.3 → 6.0 (Remove Air Spawn).
Harrier GR.7: 11.7 → 11.3 - JAPAN
J7W1: 6.0 → 5.7
Kikka: 7.0 → 6.7
R2Y2 Kai (Series): 8.0 → 7.7
UH-1B (Helicopter): 7.7 → 7.0 - CHINA
P-51-D20: 4.3 (Keep same BR).
F-5E: 10.7 → 11.0 - ITALY
AB 205 A-1 (Helicopter): 7.7 → 6.7 (It only has 14 unguided Rockets and sits at 7.7 BR?) - SWEDEN
J26 (P51-D-20): 4.3 (Keep same BR). - ISRAEL
Sakeen: 3.3 → 3.0
For Ground Realistic
- GERMANY
Kugelblitz: 7.0 → 6.7 (Or 6.3 unless AP/APCR/HVAP gets buffed).
Leopard 2A4: 10.3 → 10.7
Leopard 2 (PzBtl 123): 10.3 → 10.7 - USSR
KV-2 (ZiS-6): 5.0 → 4.7
2S25M: 10.0 → 9.7 (I do hesitate on this one Or buff its reload speed if possible).
2S38: 10.0 → 10.3
BMP-2M: 10.0 → 10.3 - BRITAIN buff AP and APDS (no more shatters i beg you)
Comet I / Comet I “Iron Duke IV”: 5.3 → 5.0 (And Reload Speed Buff).
Centurion Mk.1: 6.0 → 5.7
Charioteer Mk VII: 6.3 → 6.0
Warrior: 8.3 → 8.0 - ITALY
AUBL/74 HVG: 8.0 → 7.7 (Or Buff its APFSDS this thing is pain). - SWEDEN
Comet I: 5.3 → 5.0 (And Reload Speed Buff).
Charioteer Mk VII: 6.3 → 6.0
VIDAR: 8.0 → 8.3 (Or remove its laser range finder and keep at lower BR)
Leopard 2A4: 10.3 → 10.7
Stridsvagn 121: 10.3 → 10.7
Luftvärnskanonvagn 42: 4.3 → 5.0
This is all i have, you can bash me all you want now, i did hesitate on some other vehicles for example Type 90s, chieftains and KV-1s.
Hopefully i didnt forget other nations vehicles this time. I don’t want to keep editing this thing anymore…
And please make it more maneuvrable,…
For Air RB:
F-14A needs to go up to 12.0,
F-14B needs to go up to 12.3,
F-15s need to go up to 12.7,
F-16A, ADF, MLU, AJ need to go up to 12.3,
MiG-29 9-12,13 need to go up to 12.3,
MiG-29G needs to go up to 12.7.
Thank you for moving top-tier up to 12.7!
i can’t wait to face T-55AM in my late 1940s designs
AH-1F/S AB 9.7→9.3, lack of auto tracking and AGM with longer range
MH-6, OH-58D AB 9.7→9.3, lack of ability to carry extra rockets or missile
It is for the heil enduring battle, TOWs and few hellfires just simply can’t do anything while your team is using modern heil with better missile and better load out capability
Why exactly is the T20 going up? Quite literally a lower weight Easy 8 with a different layout.
Would like to see F5c go to 10.7 at least, it’s a UFO and farms everything at its current BR of 10.3. Edit Mig29g needs to be moved up as well bc it has r73
I hope gaijin change BR 7 fighter aircraft at rank 5 and 1 fighter aircraft at rank 4 for Air RB 🙏
Rank IV
- Spitfire F Mk.22 6.7 → 6.3
Rank V
- J21RA 6.7 → 6.3
- Me 262C-2b 8.0 → 7.7
- Meteor F Mk 4 type G.41F 7.7 → 7.3
- Meteor F Mk 4 type G.41G 8.0 → 7.7
- MiG-9 (USSR) 7.3 → 7.0
- MiG-9 (PLAAF) 7.3 → 7.0
- Venom FB.4 8.7 → 8.3
Would also like to suggest the P-51H go to 6.7. It’s by far the most dominant superprop BR-for-BR right now. It’s extremely fast, has a very powerful engine, pretty good turn especially with flaps, and seeing as we’re getting a zero at 5.3 next patch it has no place at 6.3. Especially with the Spitfire Mk24 at 7.0. The P-51H is just as effective as the Spitfire Mk24, arguably more so at fighting jets because of its higher top speed.