Type 74C its historical APFSDS

  • add APFSDS the type 74c tSDS and moveo br 8.7
  • add APFSDS and type 74c leave at br 8.3
  • Leaving it as it is (Japan is suffering)
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Hello, why Type 74c in Japan doesn’t have its historical apfsds, it was one of the first vehicles to have them in irl, many nations with br 8.3 already have their vehicles with apfsds, for example t55a which has better v-max armor and gun than type 74c, ztz59d1 which is a better t55a, m48g2, t95e1, mars 15 etc., Japan is one of the nations which doesn’t have apfsds with these brs and suffers, once it could be argued that it’s about balance but today when more and more vehicles at br 8.3-7 have apfsds. why the vehicle which had them historically doesn’t have them in the game? today with the changed balance there’s nothing to stop gaijin to add the type 74c apfsds. And anyway in 90% you have full uptiers and you have to fight with t72, t64 and xm-1 gm etc, and I don’t have to tell you how hard it is to beat t55am-1 which is only 0.3 higher br than type 74c, when you meet t72 there’s not much you can do, and the same goes for stb-2 which didn’t have irl apfsds and it’s even harder to play with it, I hope gaijin will add it noticing how hard it is to play 8.3 in Japan and type 74c even on its br isn’t that great and is average at best.

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I agree. In russia in this br everything is almost in every way better than Japan or other nations as well.

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I think most people would take their tanks being at a higher BR if it meant getting ammunition that would be able to deal with it. I think it should be left at 8.3 if it got a better shot though. it already cant do a think to defend itself from T72 or a battle-hardened Chieftain mk10 hull down.

Japans ground has some unique and cool things but is in such a poor state I don’t want to play it. i would like to see it change

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Type 74C is not suffering, no where close.
APFSDS would make Type 74C 9.0.

T-55A fires a worse round.
M48G2 doesn’t have a stabilizer and is slower.
T95E1 doesn’t have a stabilizer, laser range finder, nor good APFSDS.
Mars 15 doesn’t have a stabilizer, laser range finder, nor good APFSDS while also being a light tank.

Japan does not suffer at 8.3 at all.

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there is no chance that the type 74c after getting APFSDS will get br 9.0 because on 8.7 there is a t55am-1 which outclasses everyone, as for me gaijin could remove rangefinder.

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T-55AM-1 fires the worst APFSDS round at 8.7, worse than APDS.
On top of that Type 74s are already correctly 9.0 with APFSDS already.
Type 74 with APFSDS is superior to T-55AM-1.

This is still a stupid argument, the T55 AM1 has composite armor and rockets that are strong, plus the apds in the type 74c like to crash into armor, I don’t want to say anymore that killing the t55am1, or the t72 with apds is like defeating a boss in dark souls, I already prefer weak apfsds to apds

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The choice is obvious.

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yes xd

even with M735 it would just be a slightly worse Leo A1A1 (9.0) but with a LRF, and there’s plenty of 8.7 vehicles that can slap T-55AM1 no issues

Type 74C is still a sad vehicle, I’d like to see M728 on it before APFSDS

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Composite armor that only works on HEAT munitions.
ATGMs that rely on gun depressions.
T-55AM-1’s APFSDS is an APDS round given fins.

@Peasant_wb
Soviets are already balanced at 8.x.

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that’s true, early apfsds rounds aren’t that great, sometimes you’re better off using heatfs or anything else

I’d say this is a question that mostly relies on WHAT dart you’re referring to.
If it’s M735 I’d say yes, but with a bump to 8.7. (Only if it would be somewhat historically accurate for the Type 74C to get M735.)
If it’s Type 93 I’d say no, as there already are two Type 74s at 9.0 with the Type 93 round.

I also think there’s no way it should get a dart and stay at 8.3, it would simply be too good to be true.

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PLEASE GOD, M728 would be absolutely heavenly for it…

Hell no, I like the Type 74C at 8.3 as is and it’s one of my favorite tanks there. You can counter T55AMs easily if you’re a better shot than them.

You’d have better luck suggesting some other Type 74 model (maybe the D since we’re missing it) with M735.

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Uhh… How exactly? At 9.0 other Type 74s get Type 93 APFSDS, while the APFSDS used on Type 74 (C) was only M735.

As for the change itself, it’s needed. Type 74 (C) model can be differentiated mainly through the bicolor camo it has compared to the Type 74 (B). This already isn’t even stock, despite being a defining feature. But it also uses M735 APFSDS introduced with Type 74 (B). So currently it can’t even be a proper Type 74 (C) when you unlock the camo.

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Then I don’t see how Type 74C being the only 8.7 in any lineup is a good thing when it has a higher chance of seeing 9.3 enemies, and of course 9.7.
Cause right now it can only see at most 4x 9.3 enemies.

If made 8.7 with APFSDS it would be able to see up to 15x 9.3 enemies as the limit is gone, and your only backup would be 8.3s.
Especially since 9.3 has the most lineups in the game across all 10 tech trees.

Then at least make it a base model Type 74. There really is no use for a Type 74 (C) missing all of its defining features.

Or they could add a Type 74 (D), which is the same as the (C) with a thermal sleeve on the barrel, for lineups sake.

Which round?

Single german M48 and israeli Magachs, south african Olifant, french tanks that trade it to lacking stabilizer.

Which have ‘armor’ that doesn’t save it from L7 cannon carriers. How it does have better gun when it have worse APDS?

No stabilizer

No stabilizer

No stabilizer and one of the weakest rounds

9.3 gets more full uptiers than 8.0-8.3 does, T-72 and T-64 are not that scary as you think

Shoot the turret

How? It is basically the same tank. Use your mobility, most tanks are slow and have poor acceleration on these BR’s. Japanese tanks got engine HP buff couple months ago, which make them even better.

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Having played the M48A2 G for a short time, can safely say I’d rather have a Type 74 C over it purely due to this.

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