[Type 10 / TKX] Fictional Internal Turret Basket & Ignored Primary Sources

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Hello everyone,

I want to bring the community’s attention to a major historical inaccuracy regarding the Type 10 and TKX damage models, and the frustrating experience of trying to report it using official documentation.

Currently, the Type 10 features a massive internal rotating turret basket in its X-Ray model. However, according to declassified primary sources from the JGSDF, this internal module physically does not exist.

The Evidence (JGSDF Manual GV-Y120001E):

  1. The Interface Specification: The manual explicitly defines the connection between the hull and the turret. It lists only the slewing bearing and the slip ring. There is absolutely zero mention of an internal structural basket extending deep into the hull.
  2. The Terminology: The official JGSDF manual proves that the term “Basket” (バスケット) refers exclusively to the external storage boxes mounted on the rear and sides of the turret exterior, not an internal floor.
  3. The Physical Impossibility (The Escape Hatch): This is the definitive proof. The manual confirms there is an emergency escape hatch located directly on the hull floor under the crew. If a solid metal rotating basket existed inside the hull, it would completely block the crew from using this floor hatch. It is completely illogical for engineers to design an emergency escape route that is physically blocked by a rotating metal structure.

The Moderation Issue:

I submitted all these primary documents to the Bug Tracker. However, the report was instantly closed as “Not a bug”. The reason given was incredibly frustrating: the JGSDF manuals were dismissed with the justification that “Almost all tanks have a turret basket… All tanks have the same mechanics” and the pure speculation that “It can has its own hatch for example.”

Historical bug reports and primary sources should not be dismissed by personal speculation or by applying generic templates from other MBTs. The Type 10 is a highly unique vehicle and deserves an accurate internal damage model.

I am posting this here hoping the Japanese community can help shed some light on this, and hopefully, a Senior Technical Moderator can take a proper look at these documents without dismissing them based on guesses.

(Please see the attached JGSDF diagrams proving the hatch location and interface specs).

(Note: The full declassified JGSDF manual (hitomaru2.pdf) has already been privately provided to the Technical Moderators in my official bug report. For this public post, I am providing the relevant translated screenshots).

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How should this issue with the Type 10 / TKX Damage Model be resolved?
  • Fix the X-Ray model. The Type 10 should accurately reflect the JGSDF primary sources
  • A Senior Technical Moderator or Developer needs to publicly clarify why official government manuals are being ignored in favor of speculation
  • I don’t play Japan, but the bug reporting rules (Primary Sources > Speculation) must be strictly followed for all nations
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Unfortunately, like with many other baskets designs and functions (Merkava’s and Challenger’s) Gaijin is just making them up to an extent as a way to add them

I fear unless Gaijin get’s a huge amount of pushback nothing will change, or at best, they make ever so slight changes to their gameplay function.

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Exactly! I can completely understand Gaijin “guessing” or standardizing internal modules when a tank is highly classified and there is zero public information available.

But in this specific case, we are not guessing. We have declassified primary sources showing the exact layout. Adding a fictional basket here doesn’t just “fill a blank space” — it actively contradicts the real design and physically blocks the confirmed escape hatch.

If they need to balance the tank, they should do it through Battle Ratings or reload rates, not by drawing fictional modules that ignore their own Bug Reporting rules. We definitely need more pushback on this!

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the challenger has a rotating turret floor which is what is modelled in game

and this is the merkava turret

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Pushback for turret baskets—a feature the community themselves voted in favour? So you shoot your own foot and you are okay with that, this logic. The community was in discontent without the additional modules (or a way to “fix” lack of damage in ‘empty’ vehicles like the Schützenpanzer PUMA or 2S38); the first vehicles to recieve additional detailed modules as requested by the community.

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