Two (three!) interesting things from today's EULA change (AFK ban, age 18+ now, inactive account deletions)

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So I know none of us ever read the EULA/TOS before we start to play new updates, but there were two changes here I thought it might be worth pointing out:

Section 2.1 sets the age of player consent for Gaijin games, including War Thunder, from 18, up from 16 in the previous TOS you signed. Below that you need to be able to say you have parental consent to play and participate if asked.

Section 3.11 adds a new provision permitting Gaijin to delete player accounts, with prior notice, if they’ve been inactive for more than three years (there was previously no stated limit).

I’d be a fan of this last one, if it could help free up some taken-but-unused player and clan names. Probably also would cut down on the numbers of accounts out there for possible resale, too.

Anyway, just two new rules to follow there that could affect some people. (Link to what you signed)

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If I can speculate, this is presumably a reaction to recent EU laws regarding consumer protection and gambling and premium currencies.

Definitely makes me feel like CYA from EU in this case.

Bit disappointing if my speculation is correct for the first one (rather than improve consumer friendly rating, they exclude teenagers.)

(alternatively, it might be due to being headquartered in Hungary and being afraid of Hungary accusing Warthunder of being a threat to children because there’s players and squadrons that may talk about evil western ideologies (see my own squadron name.) There’s been a recent series of laws and constitutional modifications (alaptörvény - foundational law - I call it constitution for ease of recognition) that had my government tighten down on protecting ‘sovereignty’ and ‘culture’.)

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Yeah, I actually went over it fairly well before agreeing to it, just to see what was changed . . . popping that in there after a long awaited Update finally dropped . … just made me curious. I knew some things had to have been changed.

I picked up on both of those changes as well. The age thing I don’t mind and it was changed to 16 a good while back iirc. But they still have the “out” in there with “parental consent” . . . that way if anything does go South, can always blame the parents . . . lol . . . I jest, but you get it I imagine.

As for cleaning up “dead accounts”, I personally have no issue with that.
I mean Gaijin makes note of “Over 71 Million Accounts!” . . . I am sure the vast majority of them are dead by now . . . but who knows for sure?

At any rate, if that 71 mil number gets dropped to say . . . . 70 million . . . I would say that’s a miracle!! . . . . ain’t nobody got time for that. . . but it is nice to have an option . . . legal and all that.

So both moves make sense to me and do not seem “drastic” or dire at face value.

Just the way of the world to me . . . stuff changes . .
and so do people and what they do

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The other one I didn’t mention earlier but I thought was fun was “remaining inactive (“AFK”) during a game”. I think that’s the first time that’s been specifically called out as a punishable offense. (Annex 1, para 2).

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“Passive behavior” has always been against the Rules. The thing is that it is very difficult to prove and is not what a vast majority of the player base believe it to be.
But yes, they have “re-worded” a few parts of the Rules it seems.
“Political” issues have been made to sound more serious than in the past, and that too is . . . understandable . . . . .

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Inactive Gameplay and Deliberate Losing . Deliberately remaining inactive during a match (i.e., being “AFK”) or taking actions that lead to a loss, such as wandering around the map without completing objectives or avoiding engagement with opponents.

I wonder if this can be more reliably invoked to shut down people in Air Simulator mode who agree not to shoot each other so the enemy team can bomb bases and airfields unimpeded and they can do the same in exchange.

Giving up objectives without making an effort to protect them (and in fact berating teammates who try to protect said objectives) qualifies as deliberate losing, no?

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Technically no… here’s the previous matching paragraph:

6.1. The following behavior constitutes unsporting conduct and is explicitly prohibited hereunder:

6.1.1. Damaging a member of your team in a Game including the following:

a) killing (destroying) or damaging a teammate (if technically possible in a Game);

b) intentionally blocking teammate’s movements (propping up, pushing out, blocking the passage/driveways).

(snip)

6.1.4. Other actions that violate the principle of fair play.

The words “passive” or “inactive” or “AFK” didn’t appear previously.

The current equivalent section (again snipping out the no hacks/bots bit, Annex 1, para 2):

Playing our Game(s) means playing fairly. The following behaviors are considered unsporting conduct and are strictly prohibited under Section 2 of the Game Rules.

Griefing. Causing harm to teammates, also known as “friendly fire,” includes but is not limited to inflicting damage to teammates’ vehicles or parts, destroying teammates’ vehicles or parts, or disorienting teammates.

Blocking Teammates. Intentionally blocking teammates’ movement, such as propping them up, pushing them out, or obstructing passages and driveways.

(snip)

Inactive Gameplay and Deliberate Losing. Deliberately remaining inactive during a match (i.e., being “AFK”) or taking actions that lead to a loss, such as wandering around the map without completing objectives or avoiding engagement with opponents.

Fair Play Violations. Any other behavior that violates the spirit of fair play.

I know it has been on the player reporting drop down menu for a while, but it was never explicitly in the actual ToS rules.

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Also interesting how they phrase it, btw: “taking actions that lead to a loss.” So if the game was already clearly lost, in Gaijin’s view are you still allowed to try to hide to survive, I wonder?

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I wouldn’t want them deleting accounts that have previously made purchases in the Gaijin store. People will sometimes come back to a game after many years. Heck, I made this account in 2012, got to MiG-9, and then didn’t come back until 2018. If my account was deleted in that period, I’d probably not bothered.

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So then they should remove the “Useful Actions” mechanic. Why punish people for going AFK when your system is actively pushing for AFK.

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