You can only blame your country, that they made a bad tank.
No problem with game here.
Sorry but I don’t think the Challenger 2E and Black Night belong in the same category as these other tanks.
If armor was the only thing that mattered at top tier the T-90M wouldn’t be more than an overhyped skillcheck.
Ironic coming from the person who hasn’t played either of the 90M and 80BVM.
The BVM is about equal to the SEPv1 and the T-90M really is just an overhyped skillcheck.
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I cant blame my country because Im not chinese and my country doesnt produce chinese tanks
Mark this line everyone
yes because it has a 5 sec realod like I said
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Both of those in a single sentence LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
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the ztz-99A have one of the BEST armor in top tier yes , and for the VT4A1 his armor is not the best but it still have a better armor than ( the Abrams , the leopard 2a5, 2a6 , 2pso , all the challengers, the tkx and the type 10 , all the arietes , all the Leclerc, and every merkavas )
Seriously? LFP nearly as big as ABRAMS and part of the turret can be penned by APFSDS? Without ERA u can’t even block DM53 with UFP.
Which except ariete all have better armour. Mind if u check, the UFP covers just 30% of the hull, the rest is very easily penned. Turret wise, 1 shot, ERA gone, second shot will pen.
This is pre fix, but hasn’t changed that much.
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Like you said, “without ERA” — just like the T-90M — that’s how it’s supposed to work.
That’s simply not true. The upper front plate of the VT4A1 has around 600–660 mm of protection, while the Abrams only offers about 380 mm in the same area. Its turret has between 660–770 mm. The Leopard 2A5/2A6 may have a decent turret, but the upper front plate is really weak and can be penetrated by almost any tank at 2 km range. As for the Challengers, the Leclerc, and the TKX - everyone in the game knows their armor is pretty bad, especially on the TKX and Leclerc. For the ZTZ-99A it’s basically a Soviet tank with better reverse speed. Its armor isn’t as good as the T-90M or T-80BVM, but it gets the job done, especially with the LWS.
not really since soviet and Chinese tanks are smaller than NATO tank and don’t forget that the second weak spot of the Abrams is located on the turret ring ( like every MBT ) but on the Abrams it’s enormous and the fact that apfsds can bounce on the 82° sloped plate and still pen the turret ring makes it even worst.
Just look at the pictures. Literally the same if not worse than ABRAMS.
Spoiler
Merkava.
Hope u could see pretty clearly it is worse than ABRAMS especially considering its got more 1 shot kill area.
Red means critical equipment damage, horizontal drive or breech kind of things. Green means 1 shot. This is pre baskets but one shot area hasn’t changed.
Also just on UFP
Pretty easy to tell they are worse.
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Please tell me this guy is not implying the Ariete is better than the Leopard 2A5 just because it has a faster reload?
He is. He thinks Germany suffers hugely even though the entire hull is not killable for most tanks without DM53.
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Please tell me this guy is not implying the TYPE 10 is better than the Leopard 2A5 just because it has a faster reload? you do know that armor doesn’t mean everything?
Nobody brought up the type 10 :)
Sure buddy :). Your entire turret being pennable from any angle is definitely equal to the 2a5 only having a breach weakspot while hull down
I have to say that theses screenshots are well done and make me realize that I overestimated the armor of Chinese tanks even if I still have to say that the armor of the ztz 99a remains better than the majority of tanks at this BR
the type 10 was an example to make you understand that the armor is not the only asset in this br, besides I have the first ariete in 10.7 and with the spall liner on its turret it’s rare that I get one shot on the turret even if indeed its armor is catastrophic that is why I play it like a light tank and with a 5 sec realod it’s not really hard to get kill’s with it
I clearly agree that in this kind of case not having armor is very annoying, now the ariete is equipped with a lazer warning to avoid being shot at in this kind of situation, moreover I just want to say that some challengers, the t-72b3, the t-80uk and the M1a2 are in 11.7 and yet they have better armor than the ariete AMV, so do you have anything to say about that?
everybody knows you cant get shot until somebody lasers you
that gaijin overtiers the ariete variants?
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In fact, Gaijin should rather put the best tanks in 12.3 like the Leopard 2a7v or the T-90m, move the M1A2 and other tanks in 11.7 up to 12.0 and leave those that are already in 12.0 because I think that moving top tier tanks down to 11.7 like the Leopard 2a5 will just ruin 10.7 even more
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LWS only helps against laser guided missiles. Its useless against tanks because by the time you see warning enemy is already ready and shoots (unless that enemy is too dense and slow). Also darts fly at high speeds so its not hard to land a hit without using rangefinders.
I’d rather have decent armor and survivability of leo2a7hu than just lws of ariete.
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At least helps u to know where you were shot from exactly if u did survive. Also LWS against laser is still nice, cause that pretty much is every paveway + most heli missiles.