Tornado slow

The Tornado seems to be underperforming like crazy. I cant get above like mach 1.1, I’ve even had F-5s do 180s and catch me quickly while I was at “max” speed. Why?

This was discussed a bit over in the main Tornado Thread:

I think there is some minor issue with the acceleration hitting a bit of a brick wall when nearing “max” speed, which it shouldnt, but not sure about that and I think they do hit their “accurate” top speed currently. But also that the Tornados only have reheat and not combat thrust, which would give them even greater acceleration. Now, no aircraft in game has true combat thrust, but that does sometimes impact in game vs IRL interviews.

Torandos are also a major WIP, with inaccurate flight model and placeholder code galore. Not too mention they are missing 95% of their CMs among other things.

Though its also worth mentioning that F5s are kinda broken at the moment, they probably need a total FM overhaul and their engines run way too cold, but they make Gaijin a load of money, so probably a low priority for them

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2 Years Later and the Tornados are still flying bricks. I get outrun by every plane at 11.0, and that even without turning (which kills your speed completely, even without bombload and even a mildly aggressive 90° Turn at 5G can make you stall with Afterburner on full). What is the point of a interdictor/bomber that can’t even outrun it’s enemy and struggles to hit mach 1,1 with full bomb load? Also, the countermeasures are mostly useless (specially the chaff) and only the flares seem to work against Fox-2s if timed correctly. The lack of a search radar, no EC CMs and incredibly poor armament variety makes this platform to be mostly unpleasant to play. You only get AIM-9Ls without ICRM at 11.7 for the German IDS ASSTA 1 + some ATGMs/Dumb bombs that kill your velocity and maneuverability even more than how bad it already is. Like at BR 11.3 and 11.7 you mostly get to face uptiers of 12.0+ (So Hornets and Tomcats), which can snipe you with their sparrows without you being able to do anything against it (chaff is useless against them and notching is gonna make you bleed so much speed, that you will most likely land in deathloop or become easy target to get gunned down, due to the poor acceleration of Tornado ingame). With the launch of the EF-2000 at leas you get a good alternative, but the grind is still long and I at least I am unwilling to grind the soviet planes on the german air tree, due to it taking a lot of time and not being german in the first place and just copy pastes of the soviet tree. I don’t think the Tornados are that bad irl, they have seen action in Irak and Afghanistan and performed as intended, but gaijin seems to have converted them into the worst planes you can imagine in this game…