No but Brazil does has a anti-ship missile that can be mounted on the AMX which is really similar
Edit: I should also mention I have no knowledge about these at all, other coming across the fact they exist when I was researching AMX
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Among the possible weapon loadouts of the AMX, anti-ship missiles (ASMs) were included. Leaving aside the Exocet, which isn’t relevant here, the Kormoran — a no beam rider — could work fine. However, if they keep insisting on the idea of not giving the Kormoran to Italy because of the infamous German Navy Tornado event, that would be a very questionable choice.
Historically, we’ve never had many stand-off weapons, and one of the few available ends up being locked behind an aircraft from another tree. Now, the German NavyTornado, who would have any real interest in it? Only a collector of German vehicles, since if someone really wanted to progress through the german tree, they could just buy the other premium Tornado or, even better, the Swiss F-18.
There’s no real competition between them anyway — that one also costs 48 coins, and demand hardly meets supply. Surely, no one is going to grind through the Italian tree in competition with the German one just for a Tornado with Kormorans, while this decision leaves the Italian community without any ASMs at all.
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I know the report has been passed, but here is a great photo of the Tornado carrying Kormorans. Found whilst looking on the Panavia website.
Also I’m going to make a suggestion for the desert camo for the 1995 if it hasn’t already been made, it looks awesome
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It’s more an early IDS camouflage
Desert Storm
in any case something is going on
ANEMONE (Super Étendard), ARI 23274 (A-200A (1995) ("Italian IDS-Tornado (1995)"), A-200A ("Italian IDS-Tornado"), A-200C ("Italian IDS-Tornado MLU") (RET.8), IDS-Tornado (ASSTA 1), IDS-Tornado (ASSTA 1) (all nuke variants), IDS-Tornado (Marineflieger), IDS-Tornado (SLE), IDS-Tornado (WTD 61), Tornado G.R. Mk. 1, Tornado G.R. Mk. 4):
• surface modes renamed to SEA standby/search/acquisition
• surface search and track signals: minimum target width: 20 -> 40 m
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SE is interesting, but for the rest, they just enabled the A2N mode for all remaining Tornados. Previously it was just the MFG and WTD61 that had it enabled.
They’ve also renamed it from SRC to SEA which is good.
Though the last point of change is… interesting
Oh yes that makes more sense
There were several Tornados in the Italian air force that kept the “Locusta” desert camo for years. Some beyond 1997
Including some that were updated to carry CLDP like the 1995 Tornado has.
But true that it would be more appropriate for the pod-less early IDS.
The late-90s green/grey camo with small roundels at the back of the fuselage would be nice the 1995 Tornado
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Yes the paintjob is done only during main maintenance, so the canarini flow some year in that camo. there are also some “arlecchini” with nato camo and some jellow pieces
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It’s as a forum suggestion right now, but putting it in as a report make get it added faster
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I have few info on the guidance system. I should have to make some research
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Great news I talked to Smin and both the cockpit camo report and invisible BOZ-102EC reports have been forwarded
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0T54Yo1fyGRz
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GXjEMytUUaI9
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A step in the right direction!
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So regarding Your report on kormoran asm @SoyBeanInhaler, where is the information on the Italian tornado being able to carry only two coming from?
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That’s marte mk2S, which was the air launched version of marte mk2, with a standard radar guidance. The marte mk1 was this missile
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Hello sorry for the wait, I havent been on warthunder and thus couldnt respond because the forum’s activity policy.
Reasoning: All documents in Italian service (that ive seen) only say that the tornado can carry 2x Kormoran under the plane. This includes the 1990 aer.1 f-pa200-1 (which we cant use in reports) and a 1995 maintenance log book
I also have never seen a picture with an Italian tornado with 4x Kormoran, the picture you sent would not count as it is a multinational prototype for weapons testing for all tornados. Even if that plane went into Italian service after prototype phase, it would have never used more than 2x kormoran
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That doesn’t really make that much sense in game, since it was capable of carrying them (which It was) it should get them, no matter if that configuration was commonly used or not irl
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I just sent in what I could with the evidence, and what would be undeniable by gaijin. After it’s implemented maybe we can try to get it on the wing pylons, but knowing gaijin’s bug report system it will be difficult
On the grounds that the Tornado MFG can, I cant think of any reason why the Italian Tornados couldnt.
Its more than likely that Italy just always ran fuel tanks or clean wings. Those wing pylons actually being used for weapons is incredibly rare for all nations.
So can be done and was done are 2 potentially different things and given the AS-34s and Sea Eagles being mounted on those pylons, I dont see why they would limit the italian tornados differently, especially as its the wing pylons that would be the more useful place to mount them in WT.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0T54Yo1fyGRz
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GXjEMytUUaI9
Fixed in 2.51.0.8, now we can finally play sim in the A-200C and feel immersive. Feels a lot more powerful now that you can actually see the flares from the cockpit (when wings are fully open)
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