SE is interesting, but for the rest, they just enabled the A2N mode for all remaining Tornados. Previously it was just the MFG and WTD61 that had it enabled.
They’ve also renamed it from SRC to SEA which is good.
Though the last point of change is… interesting
Oh yes that makes more sense
There were several Tornados in the Italian air force that kept the “Locusta” desert camo for years. Some beyond 1997
Including some that were updated to carry CLDP like the 1995 Tornado has.
The late-90s green/grey camo with small roundels at the back of the fuselage would be nice the 1995 Tornado
Yes the paintjob is done only during main maintenance, so the canarini flow some year in that camo. there are also some “arlecchini” with nato camo and some jellow pieces
It’s as a forum suggestion right now, but putting it in as a report make get it added faster
I have few info on the guidance system. I should have to make some research
Great news I talked to Smin and both the cockpit camo report and invisible BOZ-102EC reports have been forwarded
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0T54Yo1fyGRz
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GXjEMytUUaI9
A step in the right direction!
So regarding Your report on kormoran asm @SoyBeanInhaler, where is the information on the Italian tornado being able to carry only two coming from?
That’s marte mk2S, which was the air launched version of marte mk2, with a standard radar guidance. The marte mk1 was this missile
Hello sorry for the wait, I havent been on warthunder and thus couldnt respond because the forum’s activity policy.
Reasoning: All documents in Italian service (that ive seen) only say that the tornado can carry 2x Kormoran under the plane. This includes the 1990 aer.1 f-pa200-1 (which we cant use in reports) and a 1995 maintenance log book
I also have never seen a picture with an Italian tornado with 4x Kormoran, the picture you sent would not count as it is a multinational prototype for weapons testing for all tornados. Even if that plane went into Italian service after prototype phase, it would have never used more than 2x kormoran
That doesn’t really make that much sense in game, since it was capable of carrying them (which It was) it should get them, no matter if that configuration was commonly used or not irl
I just sent in what I could with the evidence, and what would be undeniable by gaijin. After it’s implemented maybe we can try to get it on the wing pylons, but knowing gaijin’s bug report system it will be difficult
On the grounds that the Tornado MFG can, I cant think of any reason why the Italian Tornados couldnt.
Its more than likely that Italy just always ran fuel tanks or clean wings. Those wing pylons actually being used for weapons is incredibly rare for all nations.
So can be done and was done are 2 potentially different things and given the AS-34s and Sea Eagles being mounted on those pylons, I dont see why they would limit the italian tornados differently, especially as its the wing pylons that would be the more useful place to mount them in WT.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0T54Yo1fyGRz
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GXjEMytUUaI9
Fixed in 2.51.0.8, now we can finally play sim in the A-200C and feel immersive. Feels a lot more powerful now that you can actually see the flares from the cockpit (when wings are fully open)
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IwNsRgE1YWA6
Hopefully when they eventually let the rest of the Italian and German Tornados (and the German F-104G) carry the AS.34 it will have a limited ability to hit GPS target points. Would be a fun way to use the IDS, especially seeing as at 10.0 GRB you get only dumb bombs currently and only GBU’s (no IOG) on the 11.3 MLU… against things with Mavs, Kh-39, etc…
Added reports to page:
AGM-88E for A-200C
AGM-88B for tornado italy
Storm Shadow (SCALP-EG) for A-200C
first two have been accepted (probably need to remind devs because they likely already forgot)
I just reported the SCALP-EG so that needs to be upvoted, im going to make on for GR.4 soon
I also have been doing research on the Italian RWRs.
It seems that they were upgraded to RWR-90 in 1990 in preparation for operation locusta. I cant find any information on this other than it happened and it expanded the threat library to more types.
From here it gets hard to understand and it is possible that the ELT/750 was added as part of the MLU upgrades or what. I found a report from 2003 about the ECR variant which said the Italian version had a seperate elettronica made RWR from the German version, so this could be the ELT/750 or possibly the RWR-90 (though I dont know its manufacture)
Additionally the MLU upgrades saw the Elt/553 mk3i (or AR/3). Some places call this the RWR and some call it just the ESM. From what elettronica brochure i saw it says that it was an upgrade for the elt/553 mk2 (obviously) which was added in the 1990 in preparation for op locusta. It the brochure says that the AR-3 / Mk3i system was to upgrade the ESM and RWE warning reciever. Possibly the upgraded RWR in the Elt/553 mk3i is just the elt/750
So from the beginning it could be RWE → RWR-90 → ELT/750? / AR-3 mk2? / AR-3C?
Just thinking now, with nuclear thunder becoming a permanent game mode they really ought to add the Kormoran to the IDS finally like we have been asking for years lol
they finally have for every german and italian tornado, with the early IDSs (the ids and premium german ids) and the ASSTA, 1995, and the MLUs with the kormoran 2
