Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

Wait, isn’t the BR of the Su-34 13.7?

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Nope. 13.3 in RB and sim. because of course the the Su-34 is equal in performance to the Tornado F3 Late

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ehhhh in air to air regard i dont think the F3 late should be 13.3 but it’s not as doomed against the Su-34 as it seems.

F3 has the BVR advantage, but as soon as it goes WVR, F3 is dead. Cant out turn it out, cant out run it and R-73s and R-77s are great in a dogfight. With BOL so weak, it can barely defend itself against either, especially at close range

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bruh that thing should be 13.7 not 13.3

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Yup

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also any idea what the HMD on tornado Gr4 will look like?

huh neat will it have the IFF for friendlies like the A-10C and what appears to be the Mirage 2000 RMV?

also massive nerf for nato RWRs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9HlT5tiTWY

for some reason it wont embed

Why? It’s a fatter Su-27 with a better radar (that it’s missiles can’t even fully use) and no HMD

PESA Radar, ARHMs and by all accounts a pretty good fm.

At the same BR Tornado GR.4 doesnt have an A2A Radar, no ARHM and 2 Aim9M for defence.

Not a good FM at all

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That’s an issue of Tornadoes being over BR’d in general, not the Su-34 being under BR’d

We can only use the metrics we have.
Su-34 with its ground ordinance alone should be top tier with the F-15E

Mirage could also join that level
With Tornado below them

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Have seen some drv server footage it pulls crazy AOA while also being pretty quick.

Yes and the Tornados should be lower

It is. In ground RB.

The Mirage is already 13.7

I have played it. It pulls crazy AOA… in exchange for all of it’s speed. And it is anything but quick.

I havent flown it likely will never unlock it.
AOA for the R73 should be spicy though

I mean not really, like I said you dump all your speed. It has no HMD so the super maneuverable missiles aren’t very useful.

You get insane dogfighting missiles on a plane that can’t keep it’s speed after half a circle.

The ACM rectangle is pretty tall though so I suppose that is a decent consolation price.

Thats realistic though its the last chance button.
Trade all your energy for that one chance.

I might have missed something, but is it getting Paveway IV’s as like a consolation prize?