Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

What are the gimbal limits of the Litening II?

Yeah the f15E and Su34 is built on a fighter airframe but the tornado is built on a bomber so the only good thing about the tornado gr4 is the brimstone and the gbu 4

tbh would rather just got the better pod on the Gr1 with its BR at 11.3 lol would have also saved me 420k RP in a grind

again it really depends what you look at, air the uk is better and it isnt a contest, you look at ground and germany is better

I’d agree with that, but what does their ground have to do with their air?
Almost every single nation besides USSR lacks a real top-tier AA.
Only amazing German tank is the 2A7, which is now the 2nd best 2A7 (2A7HU).
The other light tanks options for Ger, besides being 1 BR lower, have horribly-performing Spikes and track/wheel blowout issues.
But the 2A7s, lack good reload rates, and are now being hit with rotational stops, so we’ll see how it fares going forward.
Gaijin really does need to step it up with their ground, stupid amount of reports for Challengers, Pumas, etc.

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The thing is, I play in Sim EC, and it’s really frustrating that GJ is adding something broken instead of an interesting plane. As you understand, the Brimstone doesn’t pose any imbalance in this mode.

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Bait? One has a range of over 100km, goes mach 2, and has it’s own propulsion.

One is a missile, the other is a bomb. Lol.

If anything, in it’s current config. It’s basically useless in sim. ePaveways will be nice to use, but brimstones… I just don’t see a use case. To attack a convoy you would have to make 9 attack runs, you are better off just using PGMs and making 3 sorties, probably safer too.

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So remove the AGM D/G/H too?

Sure, Would be fair. If Tornado Gr4 is limited to laser only, then so should everyone else

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Well, I’ll be another person to say it, Brimstone should just get the ahistoric IR seeker. SAL isn’t enough to make the GR4 competitive.

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it should just get a nerfed mmW seeker, the only advantage it provides without LOAL is the ability to see through smokes (WHICH ISNT A VALID ARGUMENT) because most vehicles wont know a missile is coming to begin with.

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I could agree but only if some form of IFF is implemented. But at that point we’re getting heavy into arcade-y types of game modification.

Yep, or buff the PGMs greatly and add Storm Shadow (for stand-off GPS weapon)

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My god, how much time people spent on this — and all in vain. By the way, I recently noticed that Soviet tanks don’t have holes in the armor, even when they’re visible on the 3D model.

What is the current BR of the GR4 in the sim?

12.3. Which means 12.7 due to no 12.3 bracket. So will be evading Mig-29s and F-16MLUs every match or F-4F ICEs in slight uptier matches

Please keep it on topic, you guys can cut that discussion or take it elsewhere.

I have yet to see an answer as to why the ability to track a target through smoke is so game breaking that the Brimstones cant be added with Mode 2 functional. That is the only advantage they would have over other AGMs. Why is the line here instead of the other reasons mentioned in the Dev blog? Surely being able to fire from beyond the range of AA is far more broken then tracking through smoke. Yet this reason is redundant as it already exists in game.

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Oh, no, that’s literally unplayable. Crawling on the belly from the 29 and 141, and with only SAL missiles.