Topic about Japan adds T-84 and VT-4

Then for people eyes it’s first of all GERMAN tank not Hungarian one.

People were unhappy that Sweden got Leopards with better hull armor.

Then it means first of all it’s German tank not Hungarian.

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Canada and Australia have always been in limbo, I don’t think either are exclusive subtrees.

I mean subtrees are pretty clear. They must have a positive relationship and cooperation with eachother. The only exception to this is the Taiwanese subtree, but that mostly comes down to the fact that they both see themselves as the true Chinese.

It is manufactured by Germany, yes. The one in the Hungarian subtree is Hungarian operated, so it should be added to the Hungarian subtree. The German prototype and manufactured version should also go to Germany, as did the VT-4 and Stingray

The Hungarian KF41s, as in the ones used by Hungary, are Hungarian first, then German second. The KF41s tested and manufactured by Germany should go to Germany.

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This makes no sence if it’s must go to Germany then it means it’s German tank not Hungarian one.

The KF41s operated by Hungary are Hungarian first, German second- and should go to Hungary. The KF41s tested by Germany should go to Germany. This is not a complex answer.

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Bundeswehr never tested KF41

The army doesn’t need to. The US army never tested the Stingray but it is in the US Tree in the dev server. The company did, so it should be added under the same circumstances.
Did the Chinese army test the VT-4 btw? I don’t know that either.

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china is getting a VT-4 anyways you now have 2 of them, greedy much?

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Wow, almost 2k messages that cover literally the same thing and arguments just with different actors.

Sadly you can’t ping/fixate messages so you don’t repeat your point for gazillion’s time. Would be a handy feature in topics like this

There is no hard standart in adding vehicles in different trees since something like T-90S exist but people will recognize KF41 as German because it’s manufacturer in Germany well you can say it is operated by Hungary and it gives right to be in Hungarian sub-tree but it in spirit it will be German tank.

So exactly what I said. It is German secondly, but since Hungary operated it- their KF41 is Hungarian first.

Still, this logic can’t be applied to the VT-4s as China has the VT-4s in their tech tree, and Thailand is a subtree of Japan and is still missing it.

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for all intents and purposes it’s Hungarian tank, produced by Germany.

Germans are mainly unhappy for the fact that they don’t have access to uparmored Leopards too. Imagine another country receiving J-10C with all bells and whistles while China is stuck with J-10A. You get the point.

Again, produced by Germany. Not even adopted in it’s own army. Not having KF-41 in german tree is another topic though.

Because there’s no Canadian sub tree at the moment. There were Israeli tanks in US before Israel was a thing .

Again, no dedicated sub tree.

Although that is true, unless a certain country is added as a sub tree into Gaijin adds vehicles to other nations as they see fit to flesh out those countries as they lack some vehicles in certain BR ranges.

It is quite clear, they want to introduce a new country through sub trees which cannot be added otherwise since they lack a lot of vehicles to be a stand alone tree while helping one of the bigger trees flesh out, filling the gaps in the process and making them viable in all BR ranges. It is not a hard concept to understand if you don’t force your brain to make gymnastics to find an excuse because you felt hurt over something so miniscule.

Because it’s politically touchy for a lot of people something like adding Abrams for Chinese tree or Ukrainian tanks for Sov/Russian tree it will bring unesessary attention with no pros it’s easier just to avoid adding vehicle.

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I don’t think I’ve seen anyone disagreeing with the Taiwanese Abrams going to the Chinese tree… Considering Taiwan is part of the Chinese tree.

Probably because Ukraine and Russia are currently at war, and Ukraine was a colony of the Soviet Union. Adding a domestic Ukrainian vehicle to the USSR/Russia is different to adding a Thai vehicle to Japan- Thailand and Japan are allies, no issue. This is different to India since they’ve kept close relations with Britain.

So basically, “Screw you Thai people, you don’t get one of your main MBTs because some Chinese people said no.”

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I mean they stopped selling T-62 №545 after backlash.

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The T-63 No545 comes back every year. It is a vehicle that is only sold at certain time. iirc it comes back every new Lunar Year. Every tech tree has a vehicle like this. The T-2 Early comes back on its anniversary, the Milan comes back on its First Flight, etc. etc.

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Well and as Chinese people not agains’t giving it to Thailand the problem is it’s in the Japanese tree

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The Chinese have no say in where Thai vehicles go. The only voice that matters here is the Thai and the Japanese. Calling for another nation’s vehicle to never come is disrespectful.

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Your right. Wrong name.

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Gaijin clearly tried to hide the addition of the VT4. Thanks to the leak at least we know

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I am going to want evidence of that right now.

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