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You’ve made a perfect distinction. I fully support the VT-4 being added to the game as a Thai vehicle ; it’s a reasonable design based on historical fact.
The only thing I oppose is the top-level design choice of placing it under the Japanese tech tree via a Thai subtree . It is this framework itself, not the tank, that is the root of the problem. It symbolically places a modern sovereign nation’s equipment within a particular historical framework, which inevitably triggers controversy.
Therefore, the ideal solution remains the creation of an independent Pan-Asian or Southeast Asian tech tree . This would allow the VT-4 and other Thai vehicles to be included without any controversy, while simultaneously adding more diverse content to the game. It avoids all sensitivities at their root and achieves a true win-win.
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The 10 Nations are small right? Tech tree wise
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Given some replies lately i feel we’re at that road again where this needs to be said.
Stay on topic and discuss VT-4 and T-84.
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So you want to turn current Japan into “Pan-Asia” right?
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Yeah, I am also quite confused with interpretation of it. Wouldn’t it be… even worse and controversial?
If the idea is to just rename the tree I honestly think at this point it might be the easiest option to solve this.
An “ASEAN techtree with Japan subtree” is functionally the same, but doesn’t have the implications Chinese players have an issue with. And for Gaijin changing the techtree flag and name is very easy and quick too.
I believe that’s off-topic right now, but no country in-game is ever called or represented after formal economic-political union that is not a geographical unit (USSR is not to be counted)
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They won’t be happy is that really happened, because they will argue that is GEACPS TT
2 Nations get added to Japan. 1 of them a single vehicle.
“ITS THE GEACPS!!!”
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This would be bad for me, but I still agree that it would be the best thing for everyone who complains about this, so I approve this idea. This would be bad for me because I like to play in Japanese, I hope it could be adjusted in the settings.
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Just to put it out there even if this gets removed, technically Indonesia wasnt yet even a thing back when GEACPS was formed. Only Philippines, Siam, and Burma was there to represent SEA (well along with Wang Jingwei’s collaborationist China).
Please can you explain this to me? Are you thinking of removing Japan from the game? I didn’t understand this image, I’m sorry.
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Speaking for @MAUSWAFFE here but this should give you a hint
I do suggest reading up on his proposal, its quite good and we actually do need it the way the game is progressing with even the main 3 getting subtrees.
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basically one tree will become the host of many separate nations kinda like a branch
For instance:
- Nation Grouping A
- Japan
- Thailand
- etc.
rather than the current one which is:
- Japan
- Thailand
- etc.
with the rework the added nations are not supplementary to the main nation, but all nations are individually separated with one another, but under one giant umbrella
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I think that following this logic, the Type 10 could be added to China, right? But… I wouldn’t agree with that, the Type 10 is a vehicle with severe nerfs! It’s too slow, it’s slow as a snail! Its acceleration is rotten, the only good thing is the top speed but it takes a long time to reach it! The tank looks like a battleship when turning, it can’t turn while moving, it simply gets tired of continuing to move.
The only true thing in that comment (/j), but I’d stop elaborating on that subject (my other comment was taken down 😢)
lol, I think its performance is bad for China
Yeah, ASEAN isn’t really comparable to USSR in that sense.
But there is other options, such as just calling it Thailand. Once again the exact same function, but losing the implications the Chinese have issues with.
I think you can select crew voices to be in either their national language, or your selected game language.
So if you don’t want national crew voices then I think there’s already a setting where you can still get your language for any vehicle you use.
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