Also this was before the subtree system existed.
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yep it was also mentioned as addition to showcase the similarity of the canada situation with israel back then
Well that never stopped certain people to demand delete something from Sov/Rus tree.
So now it’s not even secondary ?
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As I said,
It is Thai, first and foremost. It being Thai first means only the Thai have a valid opinion on where their MBT goes. If I give you a pen, then slap you in the face for giving the pen to someone else, is that okay?
Elaborate. Stop being vague.
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So you are saying I am trying to trick you and manipulate you? Not a good way to get your point across.
Which is where Thailand sits. It has been a subtree of Japan for like 6 months. Either you stop complaining or call for the whole subtree to be removed.
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Funny enough Germany has G.91R/3 tested and manufactured by Italy, but nobody is talking about this one not represented in the Italian TT.
Would be nice to see Italian one as well, especially since it would be the best Gina in the tech tree.
Or alternatively they could add a Portuguese R/3 with sidewinders, as a long-awaited squadron vehicle for example.
Why ? As i said there is no problem with Thailand sub tree being in there are problem with VT-4 being in Japan tech tree.
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Thai VT-4 is perfectly fine in thai subtree that is located within japanese TT.
Its no longer chinese tank. It might still be chinese manufactured but it stopped being chinese when thai bought it and started operating it with thai crews, thai camo and thai rondels.
This was stated a hundred times already in this thread.
What makes this concept so difficult to grasp?
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Yeah, chinese community is appropriating thai tank.
That indeed is harmful.
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My friend no need for such harsh words. You need to get your emotions in check.
All im saying is that you are confusing chinese VT-4 and thai VT-4.
Not wanting to add chinese VT-4 to japan due to historical reasons is perfectly legitimate.
But tank is question is thai VT-4.
Im nearly sure my friend that the energy drink im drinking, which i bought, is mine, i own it, and it has no culrural ties to the country of origin.
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So? Thailand bought VT-4s. They are theirs. They can do whatever they want to do with them.
Im definetly shure they can’t sell them to third country or produce spare parts without permission from China.
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Additional contractual limitations do not nullify the thai ownership.
Well it could be nullified by China
Likely no, due to statue of limitations, and severenity of possible breach of contractual obligations.
But even then, there was no such breach and thailand remains as the sole owner of thai VT-4s.
So whenever you might be going with this, its pointless unless thailand loses the ownership.
So by that line of thought, Taiwan is unable to sell its imported vehicles to China and therefore is no longer allowed to be in the Chinese tec tree.
This sort of superposition that you are giving China is leaving a really bad taste in my mouth
Probably they cant reexport it to anyone, not just japan.
It literally does not matter in the scope of warthunder because these thai VT-4s will continue being portrayed as thai VT-4s.
If you want to insisnt that reexport limitations are valid reason as to not add thai VT-4s to Japan, then tha rule must apply universaly and to everyone, so every TT will have to lose most of the subtrees, china included, because im sure no one allowed for the pakistani T-80 and Mi-35 to be reexported to china.
Its clearly not how it works in WT so its moot point.
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What do you mean same with VT-4 in japan TT? Was again something lost in translation?
I said that reexport limitations are clearly not an issue when considering the addition of vehicles so that point is moot and thai VT-4 can be added to japan.
Can be but Chinese payers said they don’t wan’t to see Chinese tank in Japan tech tree and devs agreed with that.
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