What are you smoking you can lock the F117 right as it spawns in using the pantsir its a gimmick ingame, you do know that you can have an RCS of nothing and still be locked the whole point of stealth is to reduce the maximum range you can be locked, the Byelka has a max stated range of 400km against a 4m² target the F-35 RCS at the best angle is -30 Dbm² so byelka could lock an F-35 anywhere between 30-40km if it was facing the F-35 at its smallest RCS which ingame wouldn’t happen 90% of the time since most people wouldn’t know the best angle to fly at to limit RCS, Stealth IRL is good but ingame its a gimmick purely because of how matches play out and average player skill
I will go with that, I understand that most of the Russian planes flown around the world in the different conflicts are generally older and flown by pilots, shall we say, that might not have been trained as well. Agreed generally. I will say this, I learned a long time ago that when I am playing Warthunder I am not playing in the “real” world. WT is a world that is completely dependent on how the devs want it to be, I accepted that long ago. It is kind of like being in “The Matrix” if you will.
From what I see on modern, reputable websites on modern aircraft, NATO planes generally have better electronic systems and radar, without looking right now, I think the Premium NATO planes flying right now have a considerable distance advantage in radar tracking.
Thank you for reply maga_2013.
I “miss” my Mig23ML. It has changed so much and not the plane it used to be in Air RB.
I would like to fly Sim at some point, after I get around to getting a joystick. However, my question is apparently the Stealth aircraft must only be “Stealth” in Air Sim? I laughed so hard the first time I saw them in battle with their Avatars hovering over the plane, yeah thats real stealthy. I feel sorry for the guys that spent silver lions on that thing.
First sentence is completely unnecessary, chill.
Last I checked and saw videos at when they were testing it near release of f117, the pantsir was locking at like 5-8km I think. Which any other gen 5 would have been more than enough to drop munitions to beat it. I’m speaking about in game.
I know the point of stealth.
And no, you can’t have a RCS of nothing and still be locked, because you’d be returning no waves to the source. Don’t know why you said, it’s patently false. It works off reflection, if you have no radar returns, nothing exists. So a RCS of zero, returns nothing as far as I understand it.
The rest of your statement makes sense.
So you didn’t even test it yourself lmao, on release i tested the pantsir against an F-117 directly facing my radar to minimise its RCS and could still lock it easily at 15km i didn’t test the lock any further because there was no reason to but i imagine i could easily of locked further
I cant tell if you’re purposefully acting stupid or not you do understand what hyperbole is correct?
Thanks for conceding that you’re wrong.
Weird thing to fantasise about though with the whole period stuff get some help.
Also noticed you had pre-typed this reply because you knew how dumb you sounded, pretty funny tbh.
You must win all the imaginary fights you’re in 😂
Well i won this one at least, didn’t eve have to try hard or bring out any sources
The fight I never knew I was in, when asking a genuine question and you started raging like a woman? Sure bud, have that stupendous “victory.” You sure earned it 😂
I mean you’re still seething and crying here and im just confused why you keep replying
Sure 😂, here I’ll stop since I know you can’t.
You only get 2 missiles… It is complete garbage at 10.7, even at 10.3 it would be pretty bad.
9L on an airframe that barely does 1000kph is not the same as an 9L on a 1400kph airframe.
And Aim-9Ls shouldn’t be below 10.3 or 10.7, the game is too compressed to allow for that.
The A-10A is 10.3, and It’s arguable undertiered due to it creating a death bubble for flareless planes.
Big whoop really, the plane flies at 600kph with no climb so it is completely useless against someone who is paying even 10% attention. You also basically need full downtier to go against flareless.
Do not recompress the BRs by moving all aspect 30g missile slingers down in BR.
And if the sea harrier were to go to 10.0, how would you justify the Av-8s being 9.7? They only have Aim-9Gs, and going from 9Gs to 9Ls certainly isn’t worth an 0.3 BR bump.
Decompress the BRs instead of moving stuff down to BRs where they face stuff that can’t dodge their missiles.
.3 can make or break something to be worth using or not, It absolutely can depending on the patch, if you know BR brackets and what a black hole is.
The difference between a 12.3 and 12.7 for example is not .3, it’s more like 2.0 because you are up-tiered constantly and the enemies are insanely overpowered for their BR. The Mig-21MF is 10.7 while BIS is 11.0 but can never face PD, that’s huge.
That is a BR compression issue.
In my experience they’re both constantly uptiered to face 11.7. I also think there should be an 0.7 br gap between the two, but I’m not sure if that’s possible due to BR compression.
Yeah and Gaijin basically never decompress unless they are adding huge new things ever 3 years, so in lieu of that, there is a good example of why u would take the 9g over the 9l right now and it would still be fair anyway.
Hey, we got similar posts, hopefully they’ll do something about it finally’
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