They still were better for dogfighting compared to a lot of jets they faced irl, and ingame, at top tier, they’re terrible at it. Their flight models at top tier are the worst, exlcuding stuff like the F-4F ICE and Harriers.
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play usa like the rest of us are doing. I’ve realised how much they didn’t care since the mig29 and tornado was added. Soon enough they’ll hammer the rest of the non US planes to the point its just going to be usa vs usa
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I already grinded out most of the US to top tier, and unsurprisingly, they’re way better than Russian fighters, better in basically every category
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I do agree the ussr jets should get FM buffs but what I’m saying is the community that wants these buffs would probably not be fully satisfied because the flanker irl really does have issues maintaining any energy for instance
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I’d rather fly my AV-8B+ in a dogfight than any of my russian birds, sans the Yak-141. The Harrier, and the yak, have viffing tricks that let them pull ahead.
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It’s time for the USSR to have MiG 25
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Can you imagine the meltdown that the USA mains would have if we gave Russia such a Super Fighter?
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mig25 is very bad at dogfight，so I think not（mig25 just fly so fast ，but mig25 have r40）
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It was a joke about how the US Military grossly overestimated the Mig-25’s capabilities when they first learned about it via high altitude photographs. They secured immense funding from congress by stirring up a panic over the mig-25 “super fighter”.
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Yes, when MIG 25 was captured in Japan, the Central Intelligence Bureau had seen it in the past. In fact, this consists of 70 % of stainless steel.
And the MiG 25 radar is extremely backward, not even as the latest model of the F4 fighter jet that year
R-darter would like to have a word with you
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R-77s aren’t even the worst. They’re like 4th best.
Also the Zhuk just “decent”? AFAIK its the best radar on a jet with the best gimbal limits.
I generally agree that Russian aircraft at top tier are worse than its western counterparts but these points are cherry picked and made to look like Russian aircraft are much worse than they are to prove a point.
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And giving us the F-15 - still a bitchin’ plane even if it’s birth was basically an “oopsie”.
The range in the R-77 is terrible, it isn’t hitting most things past like, 10-20km, the drag on it Is atrocious, literally every missile besides the Mica (which is getting buffed) can outrange it
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The radar on the SMT isn’t bad, but like, a good radar on a crap platform which performs like a brick with the worst Fox 3’s doesn’t save it, and the SM doesn’t even have the luxury of having a good radar, with the same issue of terrible missiles and flight model, so Russian top tier is still terrible.
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Pull doesn’t make it good
Pull is very useful. You can kind of offbore the R77. Having pull also allows you to fire first and get back into the notch faster. For something like an AMRAAM you’d need to be careful as it has the largest turning radius and 0.6s guidance delay. Not saying the R77 is better than the AMRAAM but don’t discredit the R77’s ability to pull hard.
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Its not bad. Its the best.
Having a radar with 85deg gimbal limits is pretty crazy, that in combination with the R77s make it very good at staying in the notch.
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