this is a game, designed to be balanced. For a game to be balanced if something is good at a thing it also has to be bad at another thing. You can’t just ignore the things it’s good at (4 more missiles than competition, low speed pull, best fox 1), point at the downsides, and then ask for a buff.
The real answer is probably because they’re near(or are) the cheapest to buy and maintain, get more control over them, not so many strings and there isn’t exactly many modern jets to choose from in the first place.
That said, I think garbage or whatever he called it is a bit hyperbolic. They’re just inferior, not garbage. It’s not as if they wouldn’t score kills in a hot war, they’d just be at a disadvantage depending on the engagement.
You didn’t, we all know where you stand because you live in these threads. Asking if he was gonna “latch on to r27er” was sarcasm and eye roll at best, it wasn’t genuine curiosity. It was baiting someone.
Really it’s just an opportunity for you to run in circles with chicken and egg arguments that are past beating a dead horse that happens in every one of these “discussions.”
Edit: seems my comment was redundant he said the same thing in response a few down.
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If they operated like they do in warthunder, they’d score no kills lol. Irl they’re probably way better. But some irl stats can be skewed so eh.
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Again, what part of larger jet is actually cheap?
The fact is, after the Cold War, it became obvious that F-18, and F-16C, were no match for a MiG-29, using low afterburner.
It slaughtered them in exercises, and unlike F-16C at the time had BVR.
Because it wasn’t a cheap coffin that started it’s life without even IFF.
I don’t even really understand what you’re trying to say to be honest.
How much does an f35 cost?
How much does an f-22 cost?(not that they’re for sale)
How much does an f-15 cost?
How much does a eurofighter cost?
How much does an f18 cost?
How much does a rafale cost?
How much does an f16 cost?
What does a mirage cost?
Now how much does a mig29 cost if that’s your example?
A faster plane, doesn’t mean better, it just means that. We we’re flying an sr71 years before the mig29. Clearly it’s no match, we didn’t need to the Cold War needing to figure that out. So I don’t really even see what it is you’re trying to say.
That it’s no match because in one aspect you picked it is better? All this said I’m not trying to get in some nationalistic d-measuring contest with you.
Yes I did actually.
After he responded in a way he responded genuine talk about anything was long gone.
You not seeing this is concerning.
The USSR avation need buff then mayby you should suggest to replace the Mig-29SMT and SU-27SM by new planes Mig-35 and SU-30SM in USSR top avation tech tree and instead buff that make people crying about powerfull R77M missile.
well AIM-120D-3 and C-8 exist so i don’t worry about it much
So then you agree, it wasn’t a genuine question because that part had gone. Thank you :)
you not seeing this is the concerning part lol
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What?
Fox 1 are completely irrelevant in a fox 3 lobby.
Please tell me you aren’t that clueless.
Try reading better next time please.
I asked a genuine question, instead of getting a genuine response I was met with a personal attack that didn’t even try to form a coherent answer to my question.
Only after that happened, genuine discussion was over.
So once again, you not seeing this is quite concerning.
This is a joke right? R-27ER/ET is never useless
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ER ? Against Fox 3 ? They’re not hitting a damn thing unless very short range, or your opponent is a moron.
ET are great. But you can bring only 2. And if it’s a map completely covered in clouds (which happens way too often), the ET can’t even lock anyway.
Well you wouldn’t be launching them at 50km
People launch them in pairs an R-77 and R-27ER really hard to defend against
the original post says; “every Russian fighter jet above 12.7”, which includes the su27 and su33.
and my other points still stand for su27sm
It is not useless but in Fox-3 meta they are not that good. They still got their use but it is extremely limited due to it being Fox-1 and ET still a pretty damn decent IR missile. Overall still got use but mid due to Fox-3 being in game
Su27 at 13.0 is great
YES what he said.
sorry for bad eng.
so U C, you R like my comment.
usa is a HOT-ROD _(and im sorry for grinding all the tree on arcade cause now im on ussr just starting Lv8 and all on realistic and i get why u frustrated)
think ill do a second account for realistic USA.