It’s not about cannon dogfighting, it’s about short range fighting with missiles.
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So the 2-3 guys who survived the first wave of missiles?
The people who are getting mopped up by f-15e’'s going mach 2 and slinging amraams at them while i barely get to see them on radar?
As I said, skill issue!
You are only talking about problems produced by the real problems we have in ARB.
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Yeah honestly you’re right.
Don’t really know why im playing after 10k hours. Thought i’d be decent but i guess its time to put away the wallet and go play minecraft because this game is made for zoomers.
fly it like the Mirage 2k-5 then, peel off to the side of your teammates and climb to 5km while going left, try and stick to the clouds and use your amazing TWS to get an idea of the position of the enemy team, then try and oick off those who are attempting to go headon with your teammates (enemy players who fly low and off to their right) and once they get within 20 or so km and are attempting to multipath, giving your MICA ample chance to slam them since MICAs practically ignore MP.
Once you have picked off the outliers then you can either choose to stick at altitude or head to the deck to engage the furball, dodging fox-3s is easy in any top tier french jet due to the amazing avionics and chaff count paired with the MICA/HMD combo just makes them a joy to fly.
I’ve had everything except joy flying this piece of shit
For me, it’s:
-70% of the match hearing the RWR and evading missiles (I once evaded 13 missiles a few days ago).
-Finally decide to engage once there’s a few seconds where I’m not being spammed.
-Only 3 enemies alive now.
And then only three things can happen:
1- I am fortunate enough to get 1-2 kills before the match is over.
2- Match ends while I’m still flying in circles at the edge of the map getting ‘missile evasions’.
3- Un-notchable, un-chaffable, un-dodgeable MICA-EM (MICA-EM) -MICA-EM reduces my existence to atoms.
Honorable mention:
4- I finally fire my missiles, but all the enemies get killed before my missiles arrive and I just hit a falling wreck.
5- It is my team the one to be anihilated; so I just keep getting spammed till one of them gets me.
6- My AIM-120s keep losing track and getting charged while MICA-EMs travel across the multiverse to blow me up wherever I find myself to be no matter what I do to defend myself.
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Wild take, although it would suit my playstyle more than whatever yours might be, I prefer to stay undetected and solo to prevent getting swarmed in my Mirage so it’s a lot of fun to slam people with MICAs
probably 2 of them are afk at their airbase, the others are actively dying being shot at by amraams
In my opinion top tier planes carrying 8+ missiles is a big problem which means people are getting actively handheld by their aircraft that can carry a full hangar of missiles on it’s wings.
People don’t care if their launch has a low probability of hit, they’ll do it anyways as they have more than half a dozen left, which amplifies the spam greatly.
Who would have thought that will happen when you have more than a 100 missiles ready to be fired at just 16 enemies.
Missile spam is annoying as all hell and missile count is the direct contributor to that problem.
It’s the exact same seeker as an AIM-120, people only complain about the MICA now because there’s more of them that they die to more often. Other than angle gating it’s the same missile as pre-Rafale.
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Lol, lmao even.
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Everyone missing the entire point because OP used a bad example
MICA can be evaded at longer ranges like any other missile, sure;
But it is impossible to evade MICA at shorter and medium ranges, often from angles from which AMRAAMs could not even dream of hitting. MICAs can pull 50Gs after all, nearly twice as much as AMRAAMs…
That stems from getting right where they’re perfect for use, you have to use the missile survivability onion.
Don’t get picked up
Try to hide behind terrain or approach from angles which you cannot be targeted from, such as behind or above
Don’t get locked
Once you’ve been picked up you have to make yourself hard to lock, work your positioning to be outside of their radar gimbals
Don’t get fired on
Make yourself a bad target, this includes being in a defensive position and preflaring
Don’t be in range
Just stay out of where it can hit you, being far above the target or where the missile cannot pull
Don’t take no defensive measures
The most important step, even if it seems like you’re dead always try to notch, this game has some pretty weird code
Don’t be hit
This can be as simple as a high G roll in HOBS launches, that can be enough to make the missile spin out or fly right by you
Don’t die
Weird, but if you get splashed odds are you may be able to limp back to base
I know you know this, but hearing it again can’t hurt. Every time you die to a missile you have to think about how you could have avoided that, knowing a MICA is a danger at HOBS angles can help remember how to position yourself.
Another big thing is remembering that you can spin out the MICA if all else fails, it’s like out rolling a sparrow. If you see the missile wobbling when it approaches you try to pull a few high G barrel rolls, it just might work.
Personally, even is you have AMRAMMS it’s still entirely awful. Just waves and waves of EF2000’s launching 6 120’s at 30kM
Provide multiple random airfields to spawn at.
Triple the map size,
Double the number of bases
Rewards for defending bases and airfields
Can’t hurt.
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What’s wrong about it?
Sure, some players think that’s the way they can make kills. But it’s a tactic. Even if you don’t get a kill, 6 enemies have to go defensive.
Especially in F15i/e it’s my prefered tactic.
And on the other side, you can avoid them with ease at 30km range.
For me it’s the beauty of the game: Try to get into a position the enemy can’t avoid. Or in this case, bring your team into position.
It’s annoying to take off and be targeted 20 seconds later with a missile that has barely any chance of hitting.
This creates spammy gameplay as people don’t really care if their launches are good or not, they can waste a missile or two as they’re carrying more than half a dozen lol
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