We are talking about the 120s not the 105s. Unless we are on two different subjects.
See those WRs are reflecting what i am saying.
I don’t think you can really change the Abrams without possibly braking the game. Do to the skill cap. The only way i can think of is increase the armor and make the reload longer. But what would it be change by on either could be to much.
Did you just miss the same thing I’ve said about three or four times now?
The ONLY metric we have where the M1s are lower is win rate, which is influenced by so many other factors aside from that individual vehicles capabilities that it would be near impossible to use as an argument for the M1s being worse than the russian tanks at that BR.
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Top tier U.S air is best. Top tier ground is top 2 or 3 if we include sweden. First being germany. The only thing kinda popo about the U.S is the helis.
We ain’t talking naval cause there are just 10 players playing.
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I forgor about the S1 and ADATS diference so you could say the U.S is kinda on par with the USSR in ground
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This is all you have been saying PERFORM. This is a subject term. Do to the higher amount of losses it would suggest they are preforming poorly. Being that usually only the top 5-6 players ever have kills leads to the fact that there is a skill wall. The entire team on the other side will everyone will have kill shows that their is no wall. That said would more cannon fodder help the US in WR? I don’t believe so. I think all it will do is increase the KD of the tanks your saying are performing worse.
This is all you have been saying PERFORM. This is a subject term. Do to the higher amount of losses it would suggest they are preforming poorly.
No it would not because win rates, once again, are influenced by so many other factors other than individual vehicle capabilities that you cannot really draw arguments for their individual performance from it. For example again german win rates between 3.0-10.0 are the worst of any nation. The tiger 2s, tiger 1s and panthers all have significantly worse win rates than other vehicles they face. By your reasoning these vehicles must all be the worst vehicles at their BRs and in desperate need of buffs or being moved down.
Being that usually only the top 5-6 players ever have kills leads to the fact that there is a skill wall.
- This is entirely subjective.
- This is not unique to US teams when it does occur.
The entire team on the other side will everyone will have kill shows that their is no wall.
Again anecdotal conjecture.
That said would more cannon fodder help the US in WR? I don’t believe so. I think all it will do is increase the KD of the tanks your saying are performing worse.
Again this is you trying desperately to use win rate to argue about individual vehicle capabilities. See my first point.
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If what you are saying is true the WR of the US would reflect the KD. But that is not happening. What you are seeing is players that are getting 3+ kd being diluted by players in the negative. The number reflect what I’ve said. You have the Skilled players doing well because the tanks cap is much higher then the other nations but are overwhelmed because the rest of the team dies do to a wall that they are not past.
If the whole team was getting the kds that are on that spread they would have a high WR then the other tanks.
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You just ignored literally everything I said.
Win rate. Is influenced. By many factors. Aside from. Individual vehicle. Capabilities.
It is a terrible metric to try and use to blanket state that the abrams are worse than russian vehicles. Using the same reasoning you also have to argue that tiger 1s, 2s and panthers are all the worst vehicles at their BRs.
Do you believe that tiger 1s, 2s and panthers are all the worst vehicles at their BRs and in desperate need of a buff or BR reduction? Yes or no.
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No they have a skill cap. Like the Abrams.
Maybe I’m confusing you with these terms so let me use regular English. The Abrams is able to do better the all then other tanks in the game. The problem with it is that it requires a player to be good. The tank is not friendly to avg players.
That said the same good player will not be able to use their full potential in the t80 or 90, but the avg player will find those tanks are more forgiving to their lower skill.
But you’re asking for buffs to the abrams because of “low win rate”, despite the fact that they all do better than russian tanks at the BR in kills per battle and kills per death.
So why do you say no to buffing or lowering the BR of all the tiger 1s, 2s and panthers? They’ve all got much lower win rates than any other nation at their BRs.
Why do you think it’s fair that the abrams gets buffs but these don’t? Sounds pretty biased to me.
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I’m not asking for shit. I’ve stated previously that the Abrams needs to be rebalanced. That will require nerfs with buffs at the same time. I just jumped in because say the Abrams is good because HIGHLY SKILLED PLAYERS is a bad argument.
The only way i can think of is increase the armor and make the reload longer.
Buff and nerf.
So what buff/nerfs are you suggesting for the german vehicles I highlighted that are suffering so terribly badly?
And which nerfs do you think we should apply to the italian/japanese/french vehicles throughout their TTs as they all perform above average in WR.
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I’m not even talking about the other tanks. Im only talk about the Abrams. You need to stop talking my comments out of context. It is annoying.
As i have previously stated in that comment you quote. Fixing the Abrams would be difficult do to not knowing how much to go on each end. Increase the armor so it has to be shot at weak point but Increase it’s reload to 7s. Is that enough for it to still be balanced? I don’t know. That why i said it is a big problem for gaijin.
I’m not even talking about the other tanks. Im only talk about the Abrams. You need to stop talking my comments out of context. It is annoying.
Good for you, but I am. I’m applying your same reasoning to another set of tanks that have the same circumstances and asking you how it should apply to them. So how should these vehicles I’ve mentioned by changed to bring their win rate in-line with other nations since the vehicles are underperforming so badly?
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The Japanese, French, and Italian. I would not want to touch by stats. They are too effected by the large nations to say the stats are from the tanks themselves.
As for the Tiger’s you could increase mobility and lower it’s armor. This would cause issues with historical accuracy that players will complain about. I do not care about these changes to modern tanks because their armor and performance are classified and gaijin is already making up numbers for those.
The Japanese, French, and Italian. I would not want to touch by stats. They are too effected by the large nations to say the stats are from the tanks themselves.
That’s not fair given you’ve made it apparent that winrate is what determines performance. I’ve said multiple times that win rate is influenced by many different factors but you ignored me saying this so I will not accept you trying to excuse win rate in this instance because of other factors other than the vehicles.
So try again.
As for the Tiger’s you could increase mobility and lower it’s armor. This would cause issues with historical accuracy that players will complain about. I do not care about these changes to modern tanks because their armor and performance are classified and gaijin is already making up numbers for those.
You can’t make changes to armour that are not historical when there is proof that it is right so this is a no go, same with mobility. Why would increasing the mobility improve its performance when armour is apparently so important? The statistics show their winrates are substantially lower so they should all be given a lower BR to improve it since you can’t just change values we know are true. So you’re fine with all these german vehicles moving down in BR yeah?
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And i can because the US is big enough to be on teams by them selves. How can i say a Japanese tank is making it’s own stats when there is only 1 on a team of 12. Now your are just being disingenuous as like before.