dont put words in my mouth
russia ruling top tier is funny
you’re the one that said he’s done with me long ago
I guess I brought up the chally and mbt2k and type 90 and spent an hour talking about them while pulling up stats too
What do you know about top tier? Remember you have no vehicles in there therefore you have no idea whats goin on in top tier environment.
I’ve should have but i thought you were actually curious about those vehicles and i tried to explain it to you but its obvious you’re just here to troll without having actual experience on them.
Im not the one who opened Japanese tank discussion, remember that genius, oh wait you’re only here because derailing this topic, and trolling.
From now on im not gonna continue, come back once you gain experience at top tier and vehicles we discussed.
You’re just empty talking and trolling.
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I know your memory is not that good but try to keep up
sorry but everyone and their mother knows the flaws of the russian tree’s mbts bruh
funny how you switch the positions
now its ME that’s derailing and trolling
funny how you accuse me of trolling while you’re the one bringing up stats bruh
Because you’ll need to aim to avoid those fuel tanks, which will then prove my point of you needing to aim in order to disable M1s consistently.
If something is considered free, it needs to work each and every time, which isn’t the case with those fuel tanks so yeah, you need to find a better argument.
My tests were performed when both tanks were flat and on the same level, which is the case with penetration analysis in the hangar.
Nice try though.
My pictures of UFP bouncing shots literally disproves that it’s free, because it isn’t and you still need to aim. Shall you try again, but with something more convincing now ?
This is still better than tanks I’ve mentioned above, those would be happy to have M1’s armor layout. M1s don’t have the worst armor at their BR by a long shot, which literally means it’s decent.
This is because you jumped on me because I said M1 has decent armor layout (which it does), and I just had to prove to you that my claims are true.
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So you should be familiar with the fact most of the “bouncable” area on the UFP will not bounce the round into the turret ring.
Fuel tanks in general are weird, sometimes they eat the round completely, sometimes they explode (internal ones) and sometimes they act like they’re not there.
I’ve been shot numerous times in my M1’s LFP and getting 0 damage from it outside of “This fire can’t be extinguished” message and nice fire animation on the ground. This happened on Leopard’s and Challenger’s side external fuel tanks as well.
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Fuel tank are indeed wonky , they do stop a full on APFSDS sometime , for god know why , like how track can sometime do that. Blame gaijin for spaghetti code. Ah shoot i replied to the wrong guy , sorry
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It not really from all the tanks i’ve killed Abrams are the i one tap them the most compare to T-tanks that i usually face I’m happen to one tapped abrams more than T-tanks
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There is nothing that can be said from this tbh. Sure you kill a lot of Abram player but that doesnt mean the tank is bad. God forbid Italy tanks from being decent (beside the 2A7) but the Italy players proved everyone wrong by having one of the highest WR and KD ratio but that doesn’t mean the Ariete is a good tank , it is far from being good.
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Oh, come on you if we gonna talk about skills it obvious that US players can’t compare to minor nation
Abrams are not bad tanks it just not good enough for top tier to fight stuff like Strv122 Leopard 2A7V T-80BVM/90M
I’m not gonna talk about Ariete tank suck ofc but players stat make it look good just like any top tier tanks in minor nation TT
Dont confuse yourself with me.
You mean couple crybabies who always claims how ‘‘bad Ru tanks’’ are? They just like us players who keeps claims Abrams are the worst tanks and as i’ve said before i dont take your words seriously on anything that has higher br than 10.3
I brought your stats cause you were shit talking with zero experience, just to prove that how arrogant and clueless person you are.
Anyway im done with you, have fun making empty claims without actual experience.
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Fuel tanks are not magical objects that consistently stops incoming rounds, stop lying please.
Solid photo proves that your test is actually not that valid and considering how easily you can manipulite those tesr by changing certain values i’d say its pointless.
And my picture proves the otherwise so why should i believe in the first place? one is directly taking from ingame battle while other one is custom test drive that can be change with codes.
Andddddddddd when did i say Abrams has the worst armor? again you’re lying and derailing the topic of conversation.
If you wanna argue about how trash Ariete is use proper thread for that.
Yeah according to you only which i couldnt care less about that,even Gaijin realized how bad they were performing and decided to buff their fire rate which didnt helped due to countless inaccuracies and Click-Bait players.
Safe to say its pointless to argue with you.
They can stop rounds, so to avoid this happening you’ll have to aim around them.
You and anyone else can do the same thing on that shooting range map and will get the same results.
As I said above, you can test it yourself since it’s publicly available map.
Literally any hull shot that’s not OHK or full disablement is a proof that it isn’t free.
You tried to deny M1s have decent armor, which was swiftly shut down.
M1s have decent armor at their BR according to common sense. Anyone that says otherwise is either trolling or ignorant.
True, spending words on you was a mistake.
Dude with 30k+ battles that’s still ignorant on how fuel tanks and M1’s UFP work is sad and hilarious at the same time.
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are the russian crybabies in the room with us right now? it is common knowledge that russian tanks suck due to having multiple frontal weakspots and shit armor+ no gun handling+ no reverse+ bad layout etc
listing facts does not make someone a crybaby
however it is funny that you’re calling yourself that
more like you ran out of excuses and cherries to pick so you had to pull up stats
you were “done” with me many moons ago
how many times are you gonna say this?
You mean common weakspots such as Driver Port and Lower frontal plate you can find on any tank? Damn dude level of clulessleness on you is amazing.
Shit armor? Hahaha, T90M/BVM are one of the most heavily armored vehicles in this game, only fools like you can claim this kinda absurd things, not surprised considering you never used them before.
Both BVM/90M has same traverse and elevation speed that Leo2 has, they even beat Abrams in that regard due to having better elevation speed and depression is more then enough thanks to open top map designs, my clueless friend.
Your cheap jokes arent funny anymore btw as i said your words means nothing :D
Well not having any top tier tanks and talking shit about them makes you look like a entire circus in here so yea i’d say you’re excuses becoming more and more pathetic.
Well i always like to give people another chance but people like you doesnt deserve it seems.
Anyway i think im really done with you this time, have fun making empty and clueless excuses and embaressing yourself even more toxic person.
Btw you have been blocked so dont even bother to reply me.
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you forgot to mention that hitting the lfp on the russian tanks does way more damage compared to an abrams since there’s a whole autoloader with AMMO behind it
hilarious since you hit the same weakspots on those tanks that you’d hit any other tank
you call me clueless yet you’re out here saying the depression on russian tanks are fine
not my words, not my joke. yours truly, none are mine.
doesnt mean I’m not facing them any other match
sure buddy I really really needed that from your highness
look who’s talking about being toxic bruh
I don’t think the US is bad at top tier, it just suffers from terrible players. As a US main myself, I would like to see a couple of things happen to give the actual skilled players of the tree an edge. 1. Make the turret ring volumetric armor. 2. Reconsider the DU armor upgrades (I don’t care if it has to come with the SEP v3 I would just like to see it in game). 3. Maybe a more competitive option to the ADATS for SPAA (Like the SLAMRAAM or something). US CAS dominates, but if your team straight up abandons you after one death the CAS doesn’t make up for it. There’s no possible way to fix the winrate, and I’m fine with that. I view the US as a tree that requires a certain level of skill to play, kind of the middle ground in terms of skill. The Abrams is just an Average MBT. It has average armor, great mobility, gun handling, traverse, etc. You can’t just turn your brain off and play it, but you don’t need to sweat to play it either. Like I’ve seen it stated previously in other threads, the Abrams gets a lot of passive advantages compared to active ones. When used correctly, you can dominate most matches outright.
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So would the XM943 STAFF or M1111 120mm MRM shell be sufficient help to the 120mm M1’s? If they aren’t going to adjust the armor or erroneous module placement / inclusion.
T90M and T80 BVM (2019) should be 12.7, click bait (M1A1 HC) (1990s) (comparable to T90A) should be 11.3, change all trees accordingly. end of discussion.
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You can’t say an opinion like that, and proceed to say “end of discussion”.
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I could because, I just did. In any case, you could also try to come up with a better argument than that if you just feel its an opinion.
USSR has almost the same ammount of wallet warrior premium players but it still has a 55% win rate, if premium players and nubs in USSR stopped giving up their side armor they easily could achieve a 70% win rate with current BRs. While US only does good in Arcade because you get all nations mixed up.
T90 has better thermals than SEP V2, better armor, better penetration with ATGMs, autoloader, lower profile. The only thing against it is a slower than average (still not terrible) forward speed, a terrible backward speed (just dont rush like most USSR mains do lol), and a 15% lower than average reload speed in top tier. But the T90A still has much better armor than the M1A1 HC, and still retains its op ATGM.
If USSR mains dont know how to play its their problem, Gaijin is getting money to make a balanced game, stop complaining about US premium players when all countries have premium players (specially USSR and US), but everyone just complains about US players when Gaijin cant stop nerfing US (Bradley’s TOW 2B anyone?).
TLDR: Russia still has Premium wallet warrior players and still has an 8% higher win rate than US in Arcade (in which teams doesnt matter since click baits get uniform distribution in arcade since there is no nation lock per team), how do you explain that since you want to discuss?
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