You’re the one who went to that way and i simply answered your question, try not to embaress yourself even more.
soooo you’re telling me that you’re supposed to aim at weakspots to kill people in top tier? colour me surprised! I had no idea!
all mbts have the same lfp and breach and barrel weakspot in top tier
doesnt help that the gameplay pretty much revolves around who shoots first
good thing the forums are open for everyone to see who said what first 🤣
I don’t need to test it, I lived it for like a year when I grinded US first lol I’m very familiar with its turret ring.
Fuel tanks can not will, can and I have yet to see a fuel tank eat the whole round. They just negate a lot of the spalling, no? It normally still leads to a killed driver, maybe an engine whatever. Which just disables you, and unless you were going fast enough to slide into cover/concealment, it just takes a follow up shot get you. Which is what I was saying. Surviving an initial shot with no ability to do anything besides wait for the follow up kill shot is still a free kill. I(and I assume most others) don’t literally mean a free instakill, it’s just going to lead to a free kill unless you lost your vantage point on the tank.
I play against Abrams top tier a lot more now with Japan and I have never seen this fuel tank eat a shot. I have seen it disappear and the round still go through and do damage, but never just eat a shot and stop penetrating like era does. It just reduces what my round does to them. Maybe I’m not paying enough attention though. Abrams tend to be my easiest kills, which I like when playing against them lol… not when I play as them.
soooo you’re telling me that you’re supposed to aim at weakspots to kill people in top tier?
Meanwhile Type-90 doesnt even need to aim Chally’s weakspots due to it can basically lol pen it, meanwhile it can easily out flank,outspeed and kill mbt due to its superior mobility and fire rate.
Type-90 Fuji is one of the best if not the best premium tank you can buy at store, it basically bullies 10.3-11.3 lobbies easily and any semi decent Type-90 player will annihilate its enemies.
Saying its a meh tank due to its armor shows how clueless and arrogant person you are.
all mbts have the same lfp and breach and barrel weakspot in top tier
doesnt help that the gameplay pretty much revolves around who shoots first
Is that the reason why SWE-GER-RU rules the top tier, huh i guess they’re not so different than Challenger 2’s due to having similiar weakspots.
Honestly your claims becoming more and more empty with each one, you’re doing nothing but embrassing yourself while wasting my time, try not to do that anymore.
good thing the forums are open for everyone to see who said what first
Yea as you can see you made a claim and i answered to it, you basically started this not me genius.
Surviving an initial shot with no ability to do anything besides wait for the follow up kill shot is still a free kill.
Perfect example for that.
Is that the reason why SWE-GER-RU rules the top tier, huh i guess they’re not so different than Challenger 2’s due to having similiar weakspots.
dont put words in my mouth
russia ruling top tier is funny
Honestly your claims becoming more and more empty with each one, you’re doing nothing but embrassing yourself while wasting my time, try not to do that anymore.
you’re the one that said he’s done with me long ago
Yea as you can see you made a claim and i answered to it, you basically started this not me genius.
I guess I brought up the chally and mbt2k and type 90 and spent an hour talking about them while pulling up stats too
russia ruling top tier is funny
What do you know about top tier? Remember you have no vehicles in there therefore you have no idea whats goin on in top tier environment.
you’re the one that said he’s done with me long ago
I’ve should have but i thought you were actually curious about those vehicles and i tried to explain it to you but its obvious you’re just here to troll without having actual experience on them.
I guess I brought up the chally and mbt2k and type 90 and spent an hour talking about them while pulling up stats to
Im not the one who opened Japanese tank discussion, remember that genius, oh wait you’re only here because derailing this topic, and trolling.
From now on im not gonna continue, come back once you gain experience at top tier and vehicles we discussed.
You’re just empty talking and trolling.
Im not the one who opened Japanese tank discussion
I know your memory is not that good but try to keep up
What do you know about top tier? Remember you have no vehicles in there therefore you have no idea whats goin on in top tier environment.
sorry but everyone and their mother knows the flaws of the russian tree’s mbts bruh
oh wait you’re only here because derailing this topic, and trolling.
funny how you switch the positions
now its ME that’s derailing and trolling
funny how you accuse me of trolling while you’re the one bringing up stats bruh
Why would i shoot through fuel tanks when i can just aim to middle? Also fuel tanks doesnt stop incoming rounds hundred percent time which makes your claim pretty much irrevelant.
Because you’ll need to aim to avoid those fuel tanks, which will then prove my point of you needing to aim in order to disable M1s consistently.
If something is considered free, it needs to work each and every time, which isn’t the case with those fuel tanks so yeah, you need to find a better argument.
I dont see any bounce on that angle like you claimed, seems to me your claim is quite cherrypicked.
My tests were performed when both tanks were flat and on the same level, which is the case with penetration analysis in the hangar.
Nice try though.
Picture above proves otherwise.
My pictures of UFP bouncing shots literally disproves that it’s free, because it isn’t and you still need to aim. Shall you try again, but with something more convincing now ?
As i’ve said before decent doesnt mean anything when your weakspots are as big as moon and can be easily exploited by enemy players, this is like saying ‘‘hey shoot me here so i can bounce of your shell and claim that my armor is decent’’.
This is still better than tanks I’ve mentioned above, those would be happy to have M1’s armor layout. M1s don’t have the worst armor at their BR by a long shot, which literally means it’s decent.
I dont but this discussion is about Abrams and im tired that people like you who always loves to bring other tanks into Abrams discussion.
This is because you jumped on me because I said M1 has decent armor layout (which it does), and I just had to prove to you that my claims are true.
I don’t need to test it, I lived it for like a year when I grinded US first lol I’m very familiar with its turret ring.
So you should be familiar with the fact most of the “bouncable” area on the UFP will not bounce the round into the turret ring.
Fuel tanks can not will, can and I have yet to see a fuel tank eat the whole round. They just negate a lot of the spalling, no?
Fuel tanks in general are weird, sometimes they eat the round completely, sometimes they explode (internal ones) and sometimes they act like they’re not there.
I’ve been shot numerous times in my M1’s LFP and getting 0 damage from it outside of “This fire can’t be extinguished” message and nice fire animation on the ground. This happened on Leopard’s and Challenger’s side external fuel tanks as well.
Fuel tanks can not will, can and I have yet to see a fuel tank eat the whole round. They just negate a lot of the spalling, no?
Fuel tank are indeed wonky , they do stop a full on APFSDS sometime , for god know why , like how track can sometime do that. Blame gaijin for spaghetti code. Ah shoot i replied to the wrong guy , sorry
This is because you jumped on me because I said M1 has decent armor layout (which it does)
It not really from all the tanks i’ve killed Abrams are the i one tap them the most compare to T-tanks that i usually face I’m happen to one tapped abrams more than T-tanks
There is nothing that can be said from this tbh. Sure you kill a lot of Abram player but that doesnt mean the tank is bad. God forbid Italy tanks from being decent (beside the 2A7) but the Italy players proved everyone wrong by having one of the highest WR and KD ratio but that doesn’t mean the Ariete is a good tank , it is far from being good.
Oh, come on you if we gonna talk about skills it obvious that US players can’t compare to minor nation
Abrams are not bad tanks it just not good enough for top tier to fight stuff like Strv122 Leopard 2A7V T-80BVM/90M
I’m not gonna talk about Ariete tank suck ofc but players stat make it look good just like any top tier tanks in minor nation TT
I know your memory is not that good but try to keep up
Panther2995:
Dont confuse yourself with me.
sorry but everyone and their mother knows the flaws of the russian tree’s mbts bruh
Panther2995:
You mean couple crybabies who always claims how ‘‘bad Ru tanks’’ are? They just like us players who keeps claims Abrams are the worst tanks and as i’ve said before i dont take your words seriously on anything that has higher br than 10.3
funny how you switch the positions
now its ME that’s derailing and trolling
funny how you accuse me of trolling while you’re the one bringing up stats bruh
I brought your stats cause you were shit talking with zero experience, just to prove that how arrogant and clueless person you are.
Anyway im done with you, have fun making empty claims without actual experience.
Because you’ll need to aim to avoid those fuel tanks, which will then prove my point of you needing to aim in order to disable M1s consistently.
Fuel tanks are not magical objects that consistently stops incoming rounds, stop lying please.
My tests were performed when both tanks were flat and on the same level, which is the case with penetration analysis in the hangar.
Nice try though.
Solid photo proves that your test is actually not that valid and considering how easily you can manipulite those tesr by changing certain values i’d say its pointless.
My pictures of UFP bouncing shots literally disproves that it’s free, because it isn’t and you still need to aim. Shall you try again, but with something more convincing now ?
And my picture proves the otherwise so why should i believe in the first place? one is directly taking from ingame battle while other one is custom test drive that can be change with codes.
This is still better than tanks I’ve mentioned above, those would be happy to have M1’s armor layout. M1s don’t have the worst armor at their BR by a long shot, which literally means it’s decent.
Andddddddddd when did i say Abrams has the worst armor? again you’re lying and derailing the topic of conversation.
If you wanna argue about how trash Ariete is use proper thread for that.
This is because you jumped on me because I said M1 has decent armor layout (which it does), and I just had to prove to you that my claims are true.
Yeah according to you only which i couldnt care less about that,even Gaijin realized how bad they were performing and decided to buff their fire rate which didnt helped due to countless inaccuracies and Click-Bait players.
Safe to say its pointless to argue with you.
Fuel tanks are not magical objects that consistently stops incoming rounds, stop lying please.
They can stop rounds, so to avoid this happening you’ll have to aim around them.
Solid photo proves that your test is actually not that valid and considering how easily you can manipulite those tesr by changing certain values i’d say its pointless.
You and anyone else can do the same thing on that shooting range map and will get the same results.
And my picture proves the otherwise so why should i believe in the first place? one is directly taking from ingame battle while other one is custom test drive that can be change with codes.
As I said above, you can test it yourself since it’s publicly available map.
Literally any hull shot that’s not OHK or full disablement is a proof that it isn’t free.
Andddddddddd when did i say Abrams has the worst armor? again you’re lying and derailing the topic of conversation.
You tried to deny M1s have decent armor, which was swiftly shut down.
Yeah according to you only which i couldnt care less about that
M1s have decent armor at their BR according to common sense. Anyone that says otherwise is either trolling or ignorant.
Safe to say its pointless to argue with you.
True, spending words on you was a mistake.
Dude with 30k+ battles that’s still ignorant on how fuel tanks and M1’s UFP work is sad and hilarious at the same time.
You mean couple crybabies who always claims how ‘‘bad Ru tanks’’ are? They just like us players who keeps claims Abrams are the worst tanks
are the russian crybabies in the room with us right now? it is common knowledge that russian tanks suck due to having multiple frontal weakspots and shit armor+ no gun handling+ no reverse+ bad layout etc
listing facts does not make someone a crybaby
however it is funny that you’re calling yourself that
I brought your stats cause you were shit talking with zero experience, just to prove that how arrogant and clueless person you are.
more like you ran out of excuses and cherries to pick so you had to pull up stats
Anyway im done with you
you were “done” with me many moons ago
how many times are you gonna say this?