You don’t get it , the guy only get himself into good position , like 2km sniping with enemy , even tho in my 2k hours of this game i have not seen a map that allow 2km sniping duel. You see him saying you will get into those position eventually mean you will eventually push up cluelessly or just run into open spaces and get shot. Everyone is clueless , except him, don’t bother with the guy who said “I will not bother with your opinion about M1” but still continue to yap about it.
please enlighten on how else would you hold an angle if you’re not camping?
as I literally just said, a good player wouldn’t let himself get into those vulnerable spots and would rather gtfo of there as fast as he can
what a sigmuh…
So you’re just admitting that the only way to hold an angle to is to camp and not helping your team to win the game, gotcha.
I think we’re done here.
nobody said you couldnt help your teammates to hold multiple angles
nobody said killing people or holding angles doesnt help your team
also I didnt admit to anything I just said a good player chooses better positions. you’re just interpreting that good position & holding angles= camping
bro thinks he did “gotcha” 💀💀💀
while you’re holding on one spot and campin there entire duration enemy team can cover multiple angles including your flanks and can easily destroy you.
I mean i know you’re clueless person i just didnt thought you were that kinda clueless.
Thanks for proving that.
No matter how good position is once you start camping there you will have no contribute to your team, you will only score for yourself, you dont even know the difference.
and how is that not my fault for allowing that to happen? +good on the enemy team for coordinating and playing like that.
you talk like you’re a sad wee little honda civic without any guns that can do nothing but watch the screen and die
sounds like someone doesnt know how the game works
killing people not only gets you score but bleeds tickets. it also HELPS your teammate by getting the enemies that would’ve otherwise killed your teammates killed
Thats rich considering you’re participating on certain threads while lacking vehicles or experience about them.
In order to bleed tickets to the end you have to basically kill entire enemy team multiple times by yourself, if you can do that be my guest Sherlock.
The real help will be playing together with your team, attacking objectives while coordinating your attacks against enemies, camping will only boost your personal stats.
How about stop camping on certain location and instead move around the map and try to clear zones? Guess its to hard for you to discover this secret.
ah classic ad hominem. please do tell me how that is related to the current discussion
you can do that but who is forcing you to?
your team could capture a point and you could hold the angles that lead into the point thus denying the enemy team from recapturing the point
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you can help your team by holding angles that lead out/towards a point thus denying the enemy team from capturing
or you can help your team by camping their spawn so they dont get reinforcements. its not pretty but its a strat
thanks for pointing out what you should do to counter the enemy
but not every tank is built for that purpose
Guess its too hard for you to discover this secret.
So you will entirely depend on your team to capture objectives while holding the off the enemy and try to win the game? No wonder why you’re so talking arrogant without actual experience.
By holding one certain point you willl only help yourself by boosting your stats and holding that point.
Other routes will be still exposed and good enemy will exploit that.
If i can do that tactic in my Challenger DS im pretty sure other tanks at high tier can perform same duty.
What you’re saying is basically nothing but skill issue, not suprised i guess.
yes warthunder is a team game
in a team someone can choose to be the spearhead or the support for an assault.
…Annnd keeping that point defended from enemies which would help you win
how many routes/points can one guy cover? do you want me to be everywhere at all times? it is up to the player to decipher the situation and take appropriate action whether it’d be staying or leaving for other points
good on you but not all tanks are the same
Except not ever map is open field where you can pick one spot and support your team from distances, thats why Challengers are forced to take CQC fights even tho they were designed to engage targets from long distances.
Is there any scientific evidence that supports your claim?
You can circle around map and check possible locations which helps you to clear those routes a lot.
Please explain to me that aside from Challengers which tanks also suffer from same issue at high tier?
the science is simple really:
you capture a point, the enemies want that point. so you stay there and prevent that from happening
that is an issue with the game itself that is out of your control
do I not have a team?
by that time the game would be over and what if the points are contested? you might think you’re a one man army but ticket bleed does not stop
why? I am simply saying that not every tank is suitable to be the spearhead
anything thats not a leopard/abrams comes to mind
Thats what we called participating in teamwork, not camping buddy, i think you’re confused there.
Which is why teamwork pays off better than camping on certain point.
So your logic is you will entirely depend on your team for everything while trying to hold one point and expect them to do everything for you? Sounds pretty selfish if you ask me.
Type-90/10’s doesnt suffer from same issue due to their firepower,rate of fire and mobility.
T-series also doesnt from same issue due to their armor and mobility.
Chinese tanks also doesnt from same issue due to their armor and mobility.
Even Merkavas and Arietes doesnt suffer from same issue due to their mobility, APS,sustained fire rate.
Only tank that truly suffer is Challenger series in that regard.
you can do that AND camp. hard to comprehend really
who says you cant cap one point and camp there the whole game? (should you do it? prob not)
as far as im aware of, teleporting is not a mechanic in the game yet so yes I kinda have to rely on my team to do the minimum of capturing one point if I am to do everything myself. does that sound selfish?
what about armor?
hilarious💀💀
armor?💀
And thats not called camping, its called participating in team work and holding the cap, totaly different from pure camping.
as far as im aware your tank can move around the map.
Mobility and fire rate compensates that their armor weakness a lot, also i bounced surprisingly amount of enemy shells in my Type-10’s but i always believe they can recieve better armor.
Their real problem is Turret Traverse rate and Gun elevation, 30 degree traverse and 10 degree elevation speed isnt accurate for Type-10 series and that hurts most when i play with them.
Im sorry do you have any experience with those vehicles ? No, meanwhile i have and i 've never had any problems with those tanks.
I recently bought Al-Khalid and im loving it, despite having 7.1 Sec reload im performing much better than my Abrams in my Al-Khalid due to its firepower,armor and mobilty.
I suggest experience those vehicles first before making any claims.
Did i mention anything about armor? As i’ve said they rely on mobility and sustained fire rate which in this case they make them better than Challengers, only Challenger that can rival them is 2E due to its mobility i think.
who said camping cant involve participating in teamwork?
bro out here making up new terms
you just do you bruh
…which takes time
I wouldnt take that tank with that armor for a spearhead tho
mobility is one thing but saying that one of the pros of russian and SPECIALLY chinese tanks is their armor is pure bait
they wouldnt be good for a spearhead if they dont have sufficient armor
now you’re just wrong in this statement because the abrams has better armor and can reload faster
Im not your bruh.
It applies to every person who participates in that battle, you’re not special in that case
Talking without experience will get you nowhere.
What do you know about their armor Mr ‘‘ı have none of those tanks’’?
They can always recieve buffs but Ariete’s will never fit into any role.
You still talking with arrogance while not knowing anything dude.
Russian tank when 300mm shell hit their low ( they roll over and die) not to mention some chinese tank got bigger area to hit than the russian. Still a stronk point btw, mobility is not even half as good as western tank but still their strong point is armor
Like how Leclerc,Abrams,Type-10,Challenger,Merkava and Leopard2 series dies to that shot? I agree.
Also autoloader saves their ass due to absorbing damage from time to time.
Lol, T80 series are mobile than many western tanks actually, only thing they are weak is reverse speed.