So you will entirely depend on your team to capture objectives while holding the off the enemy and try to win the game? No wonder why you’re so talking arrogant without actual experience.
By holding one certain point you willl only help yourself by boosting your stats and holding that point.
Other routes will be still exposed and good enemy will exploit that.
If i can do that tactic in my Challenger DS im pretty sure other tanks at high tier can perform same duty.
What you’re saying is basically nothing but skill issue, not suprised i guess.
yes warthunder is a team game
in a team someone can choose to be the spearhead or the support for an assault.
…Annnd keeping that point defended from enemies which would help you win
how many routes/points can one guy cover? do you want me to be everywhere at all times? it is up to the player to decipher the situation and take appropriate action whether it’d be staying or leaving for other points
Except not ever map is open field where you can pick one spot and support your team from distances, thats why Challengers are forced to take CQC fights even tho they were designed to engage targets from long distances.
Is there any scientific evidence that supports your claim?
You can circle around map and check possible locations which helps you to clear those routes a lot.
Please explain to me that aside from Challengers which tanks also suffer from same issue at high tier?
the science is simple really:
you capture a point, the enemies want that point. so you stay there and prevent that from happening
that is an issue with the game itself that is out of your control
do I not have a team?
by that time the game would be over and what if the points are contested? you might think you’re a one man army but ticket bleed does not stop
why? I am simply saying that not every tank is suitable to be the spearhead
anything thats not a leopard/abrams comes to mind
Thats what we called participating in teamwork, not camping buddy, i think you’re confused there.
Which is why teamwork pays off better than camping on certain point.
So your logic is you will entirely depend on your team for everything while trying to hold one point and expect them to do everything for you? Sounds pretty selfish if you ask me.
Type-90/10’s doesnt suffer from same issue due to their firepower,rate of fire and mobility.
T-series also doesnt from same issue due to their armor and mobility.
Chinese tanks also doesnt from same issue due to their armor and mobility.
Even Merkavas and Arietes doesnt suffer from same issue due to their mobility, APS,sustained fire rate.
Only tank that truly suffer is Challenger series in that regard.
you can do that AND camp. hard to comprehend really
who says you cant cap one point and camp there the whole game? (should you do it? prob not)
as far as im aware of, teleporting is not a mechanic in the game yet so yes I kinda have to rely on my team to do the minimum of capturing one point if I am to do everything myself. does that sound selfish?
And thats not called camping, its called participating in team work and holding the cap, totaly different from pure camping.
as far as im aware your tank can move around the map.
Mobility and fire rate compensates that their armor weakness a lot, also i bounced surprisingly amount of enemy shells in my Type-10’s but i always believe they can recieve better armor.
Their real problem is Turret Traverse rate and Gun elevation, 30 degree traverse and 10 degree elevation speed isnt accurate for Type-10 series and that hurts most when i play with them.
Im sorry do you have any experience with those vehicles ? No, meanwhile i have and i 've never had any problems with those tanks.
I recently bought Al-Khalid and im loving it, despite having 7.1 Sec reload im performing much better than my Abrams in my Al-Khalid due to its firepower,armor and mobilty.
I suggest experience those vehicles first before making any claims.
Did i mention anything about armor? As i’ve said they rely on mobility and sustained fire rate which in this case they make them better than Challengers, only Challenger that can rival them is 2E due to its mobility i think.
Russian tank when 300mm shell hit their low ( they roll over and die) not to mention some chinese tank got bigger area to hit than the russian. Still a stronk point btw, mobility is not even half as good as western tank but still their strong point is armor
You don’t , you flank with Type10/90 for that matter. You don’t really rely on armor on ANY TANK. the 2A7 and STRV are special case even in them you don’t want to get shot. But people always gotta rely on on MUH ARMOR to make up for their mistake
My claims that you need to aim to disable M1s and that hitting the hull isn’t a free kill still stand.
I never said turret ring wasn’t a weakspot.
Nah. I came here to disprove your wild theory that M1s are paper thin and that they will evaporate on impact.
I don’t mind admitting a tank (Arietes for example) have no armor to speak of, but seriously, M1s have decent armor that you’re obviously underestimating.
What you’re claiming facts is simply wrong information due to lacking experience on your part.
Yea apperantly you dont know about that, surprise.
Please englighten us how Ariete will fit the meta if it recieves its all fixes?
It will never be as armored as other top tier tanks, mobility will always be ok, firepower is nothing special and in that case it will loose its DM53 due to not using it and survivability will always be point on meh.
Arietes are doomed from the start due to their faulty design, even Italian goverment knows this and thats why they tried to so hard to buy Leopard2A7/2A8.
If anything they have the 3rd best armor if you really think the Tseries have “good armor” beside that no other tank can match it in term of front protection. Not to mention their mobility is better than the heavy armored STRV/2A7. But no , one weakspot and now the tank is irrelevant what a surprise
I guess giant lower frontal plate doesnt exist huh?
Its not a weakspots its basically giant signs thats says: ‘‘shoot me there’’.
Please show us where i claimed Abrams has paperthin armor, im waiting.
Stop trying to put my words into my word while bein two faced devil advocate, i’ve said its easy to one shot abrams through hull armor due to its giant lower frontal plate and turret ring placement and this is know factor, lying will not help you in this case.
Oh do they? too bad their giant lower frontal plate and giant turret wing weakness makes it pretty much irrevelant, unlike T80BVM/90M or Leopard2A7V-Strv122 series.
2A7/STRV best , Abram and T series are close second , then to the chally and Merks and the rest really doesnt have armor. Correct me if you disagree with my 10 second list but provide reason if you can
