Tiger II (P) and (H)

The developmental history of the E-100 is a bit complex, but there’s a summary here that includes the quest for an engine that would fit the vehicle.

for the E50 and E75 i can see the HL230 being enough for it to at least move but the E100 would have needed the more powerful experimental designs to do anything other than burst into flames

It’s not an ad hominem. You claim you’re right because of your experience and I bring proof that your experience is incomplete.

I’m not trying to de-legitimize you, I’m preventing you from trying to legitimize yourself with experience that lacks perspective.

i mean 140 T of steel surely need a good engine to move around… 500HP is not enough. HL232 will be the best option but not sure wether it existed or not it was planned to have 1200hp+ and supercharged.

Except that my experience in fighting IS-3s in a Tiger II is only ancillary and supportive to the other information we have about how well the Tiger II does in the game. It’s just that you ignore it and pretend it doesn’t matter, so you can focus on what’s easier - claiming that my experience in fighting IS-3s is misleading about how good the Tiger II is.

Again, it ain’t standing up. But maybe I only say that because I am “insane and retarded”.

as far as i know the 232 only existed on paper, maybachs engines were at their wits end even in the tiger 1, i dont see it being successful pushing more than the 700 unrestricted they did by reboring and restroking the 210 into 230 spec

It looks like the only option is to dump the HL230 into the E-100… There were no other options.

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That’s the price you paaaaaay
Rather be the Panther than the H
Better take a Soviet tank insteaaaad
Leave the Reich behind, become a maaan
Your transimition anyway breaks down!
'Cause your a German Fan,
You’re staring at the sun
That would explain why you
Lose with a Tiger two…

appears so, at least in the reality of 1945 germany. however in the heads of german high command (and the average WT german main) they could make a billion horsepower and spearhead straight into washington with little resistance once it was completed.

the E series was too little 6 years too late

the real men are playing france britain and sweden lets be real.

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Statistics are prone to all kinds of anomalies. You argue with your experience and statistics, because if you tried to argue with actual arguments of “these specific traits make this tank OP”, you would fold.

Gaijin balances tanks with statistics not because it’s objectively the best way, but because it’s easy, good enough and sounds good to the playerbase. They would rather spend resources on making new content, rather than balancing a few thousand tanks perfectly.

If the war lasted longer it would have so much improvement.

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sweden feel like a better germany in top tier.

it literally is just that

Yeah we’re talking about literally gunless tanks for the E-series proper. And the E-100 was not even technically part of the E-Series, it was just a way to rebrand the Tiger-Maus since it had already been rejected. There is very little actually interesting and inspiring in those ideas.

The Tiger II is a hugely popular tank. Gaijin is a business. They have no motive to rebalance it unless it actually has been doing well. Hell, one of them is even a premium. So yes, if they said it should have gone to 7.0 back when it had its full engine power, it’s likely due to a correct interpretation of its performance. And if the engine was nerfed now, that’s also unlikely to be a coincidence or just because of realism. It’s an alternative rebalance to the vehicle. And what anomaly would possibly lead a tank played by many noobs to have good numbers on Statshark?

Right, that’s why I have repeatedly mentioned the fact that the Tiger II’s reload speed is a major factor in making it so competitive. My literal first words on the subject of Tiger II vs IS-3 were:

Which are about vehicle performance not player performance.

You are not arguing in good faith and I will not respond to any of your further replies, which I arguably should have done the moment you started flinging insults.

They’re a business. Hello. They’re here to make money. WT is an MMO. To make money an MMO has to ensure player retention above all. And to ensure player retention, the best way is to balance by statistics. I can’t believe this stuff even needs to be explained after so many years. Fucking Wehraboos…

welp… yes and No because Germany also developing it aswell. but let just say germany didn’t get push by the USSR.

this as a rule of thumb is correct, however gajin has a playerbase of multiple kinds, and certain ones spend more money, keeping them is more important so they get more sweet treats than the others. why else would certain premiums and complimentary TT vehicles be disgustingly undertiered after all these years?

That doesn’t really intersect with his arguments. He’s complained in the past about Tiger IIs having to face “postwar ammo” for example, if I’m not misremembering who he is. And he must obviously think Gaijin has a hate boner for the tank for wanting to move it up a BR step a year ago.

And his reason for the Tiger II not going to 7.0 (which I agree shouldn’t happen now with the engine nerf) is, of all things, that it would be 0.3 BR below the IS-3. A tank the Tiger II already meets very regularly. I think that says it all.

I personally think the Tiger 2 H should be 7.0 still, however this comes alongside massive decompression of the whole game. Idealistically id want to see top tier be BR 20 to accomodate ideal decompress

It will surely after decompression of BR.