Tiger wont be going to 7.0 now so im happy with that.
Is2 for sure is easier to deal with. Is3 does have its cheeks which the long 75 can pen if you aim. But it is not nearly as easy as an is2.
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What are you talking about, in what fantasy do you live in.
Like I already said, they belong at their respective BRs. But when the Tiger IIs had better mobility, that was not the case, and we know because Gaijin wanted to raise them in BR. Which does not happen often with vehicles played by German mains.
Can you hit a weak spot the size of a gun barrel?
If the answer is no, you will have trouble playing 6.7 against other tanks too.
If the answer is yes, and the IS-3 is close by to you, you can easily flank it. Hell, you can even track it and still have time to finish it off before it can repair + reload.
If the answer is yes, but the IS-3 is far away, hit the barrel, smoke, and reposition. You gotta pick your fights.
You can keep repeating it’s insane as many times as you want, but the fact remains that the rapid reload of the Tiger II gives you plenty of options to deal with threats, and that the IS-3 is perfectly killable in a Tiger II. I’ve done it many times and so I know it can be done. It is literally that simple.
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I’m taking Tiger 2 every time as the match isn’t 16x Tiger 2 vs 16x IS-3, at least I know I’m ready to punch every 7.5 seconds, so much potential which isn’t limited by the stupidly long reload, I can’t stand playing IS-3 because nothing more painful than seeing an unaware target drove past you and you can’t shoot yet lol
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Like you showed at Advance To The Rhine in that match, the gun gives you options. A large part of its effectiveness is the reload speed.
I tested it about a year or so ago when another guy didnt believe it.
There are the areas next to the gun that you can pen. Hitting to your right will kill the gunner and commander (wont always kill commander) while sometimes damaging the breach.
I should note this is for engagements below around 800m.
I don’t know alot the E-75 but there were a huge amount of tank model selling the 12.8cm version the 10.5cm was the originally planned but the gun was cancle and instead decide to use the 12.8cm which the Jagdtiger used. So…105mm or 128mm is the only 2 cannons that people talk about on the E-75 no other guns were suggested or said.
I know. But the thing is, tank modelling is a business. What-if and speculative designs are hugely popular, but a lot of the “information” about them is usually pure postwar invention. The model looks cool, you build it, put it on a shelf - but it’s no substitute for the actual history of the E-Series development.
It’s also important to note that Kniepkamp had tried to “unify” German tanks twice before, and had failed both times. And while unification was a sound idea, his meddling is the reason why Germany started WW2 with two medium tanks instead of one. So there is no guarantee that he would succeed the third time around.
But these aren’t cheeks, they are pixels. How can you say IS-3 has cheeks on the turret the same as IS-2. It’s not misleading, it’s manipulative.
I won’t be arguing any longer, since it’s a waste of my time, I’m arguing with someone who has only played Germany and claims German tanks are OP because he is doing well in them.
I have both Tiger 2 and IS-3. Saying that Tiger 2 was almost equal to the IS-3 before the nerf is just retarded. The reload time is the only thing Tiger 2 beats the IS-3 at. IS-3’s reload is long, but every shot is a guaranteed one shot and you have amazing reverse speed to hide and reload.
If the war lasted longer there will probaly have some answer to this questions.
Could you quote where i said it is just as easy to deal with an is3 as an is2?
I believe i said twice that the is2 is much easier.
Very sure the Tiger II is always never as good as the IS-3 before nerfed…
Yeah. The 105 gets close with the firepower but the armor still isnt as good.
I meant @AurenKarach . “How can you say” was just a figure of speech. 2nd paragraph was also about him.
This is the opposite of what mains usually say. Maybe there’s a clue for you in there.
I’ll keep that in mind the next time I kill an IS-3.
When interrogated by the Allies, Heydekampf said German production plans for 1945 (obv with extremely unrealistic output goals) were as follows:
He is getting hung up on the fact that I said “just like you would aim at an IS-2’s weak spot, you can aim at the IS-3’s gun barrel”.
That also doesn’t mean they are equally easy to kill, by the way. But is it a shot you can do? Yes. Will it result in a dead IS-3 unless you’re facing multiple opponents or very far away? Also yes.
Ngl, i avoid shooting barrels as much as i can because i know how annoying it is when it happens to me.
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It will still feel the same when it meet the IS-3 and 4… or the T-10. They all use the same gun as IS-2 which only can pen the same weak spot.
I respect that attitude. But personally I don’t believe in one-sided limitations. People won’t hesitate to shoot my barrel, after all. If the game allows it, it’s fair game for me tbh.
why? just shoot it… it your enemy. They do not deserve to live. They killed bunch of your allies already.
Also a fair take.
Personally, i try to keep some honor code like we had long ago in game.
Same reason why i dont revenge bomb when i use cas. (Unless they are spawn camping or something)
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