Only the hull. The rest is worse. Plus it cant angle due to the side armor being worse. The turret only has 30mm on the sides too.
And the tiger gets a nuke round that over pressures everything.
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SIM has historic battles, which are era locked and nation locked. Or do you not know about that?
No, entitled people like OP are cherry picking what realism they want. This is where your argument falls apart. I’m not arguing what realism i want, i’m stating what realism the DEVS want. We have THIS game. OP wants another game. Not going to happen. They aren’t reworking an entire 8 years of vehicle releases to pander to his wants.
Nothing i say addresses OP issues? Man you can’t read. NO ONE WANTS THE GAME OP WANTS. how many times have i said it. This game population would tank if you made it so. No one wants to play underpowered tanks all day. They want to play the overpowered tanks, which is what historic eras are. No one wants ~1-3 vehicles per nation that were contemporary to the tiger as their only options. As i have said many times, RB historic battles existed and were removed from the game due to lack of interest.
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Notice how the realistic argument is always “my tank should face weaker opponents because it is realistic”
I dont recall the last time i heard “my tank should face stronger opponents because it is realistic”
There is always this rose-tinted view point of siting in a heavy tank bouncing round after round. Vast majority dont ever see themselves as the underpowered medium tank trying to fight a very strong heavy tank.
We saw this with the historical mm tests. Whichever side had the stronger tanks had like 90% of the players.
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German designers during the war decided to use thickness over geometry to protect the Tiger.
This has run it’s course so I’ll leave it there thanks
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I mean, nobody takes your wehraboo power fantasies seriously either except you, but that doesn’t stop you from posting them.
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I have multiple nations, I would use KV-1s to stomp early Pz.II/III/IVs, I would use the fully stabilized T-64A with composite armor and APFSDS against the base unstabilized Leopard 1.
Also I would feel sorry as the Germans would have to use the Leopard 2A4 and 1A5 in the same battles as the IPM1, M1A1 and T-80U (without thermals).
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Because Gaijin was given the additional tracks only on the premium Italian version. Pay-to-win
Tiger I is one of the best medium tanks in it’s BR bracket.
It cannot rely on its armour at 6.0 and be used like a heavy tank. Hell, Panther is a better “heavy” tank than this thing. Tiger I has to use it’s surprisingly good mobility to flank and take positions at medium-long range and engage enemies from there.
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The smoke grenades on the Tiger E are infinitely more useful than the 15mm of protection that the extra tracks provide on the Tigris.
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It all relies on the user knowing what they are fighting. If you know, then you can decide if you can rely on armor or not. Also depends on your positioning.
In a good position, you can use your armor to bait a lot of rounds, even up to russian 122mm.
In a worse position, maybe only for up to russian 85mm.
I wouldnt say “has to”. More like “should”. You should make use of every advantage your tank has. Tiger 1 has good mobility, armor, and great firepower. A flanking tiger can do a lot of damage but most seem to just rush head on which puts you at a higher chance of getting targeted.
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tiger has one of the best dispersion stats of any heavy, so you get better offroad performance. It also loses a lot less speed when turning compared to most mediums due to track width. Look at the forward pivot and you can see a bit of that. Compare to the Panther or Centurion that drop all their speed on turns.
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I think the issue is at 7BR it is well out of it’s bracket maybe the Tiger is out of its time and out of it’s depth there but never a complete waste of time.Like you say,you have to adjust your game play across the ranges of BR but maybe you could say that about any heavier tank or even whether or not to even use a heavy tank in a full uptier. Tactics is part of the game.
.It is fair to say that the “untouchable” Tiger was never untouchable as one was captured by the British very early on by the British after its gun was damaged by enemy fire.It was also showing its age by the end of the war.Even for the WW2 purist,if you imagine the game being late 44 then Tiger getting pounded by the latest allied gear would be perfectly correct.Two years saw a lot of advances.Even in it’s heyday the Germans used the Tiger in a particular way,they liked to engage at distance and stay away from the towns and cities if possible.
If you have ever seen a Tiger for real it’s surprising how fast it accelerates ,it literally is surprising,granted it was not a Tiger E I saw at Bovington but Tigers in generally were fast moving for their size.
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What does this have to do with it’s mobility being sub-par in War Thunder?
I was responding to your quote and how wrong you are
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- Someone claimed the Tiger has great mobility in War Thunder.
- I then show that it doesn’t have good mobility in War Thunder.
- You then give me a meaningless anecdote about that one time you saw a Tiger drive around IRL and thought it looked fast.
Firstly: What does that have to do with it’s performance in War Thunder?
Secondly: That doesn’t change the fact that in War Thunder it’s slow relative to it’s opposition.
The Tiger has great mobility in War Thunder and I am telling you it mirrors it in reality so you get your ass kicked two ways : ) Like the jack ass who claimed an M1 could nver rreaload in 5 seconds then got hit with endless video of M1 loaders doing it in 3 seconds. His argument was slaughtered by the video anecdote : )
When you are wrong …you are wrong and you are wrong ,do you even play the Tiger?
Except your definition of “slow” is exaggerated.
It does not suffer from mobility issues and your chart shows little variance, especially of similar vehicles.
Yes, it is not as maneuverable as an M18 or M41A1. Oddly it is very close to almost everything else, and better gun stability/optics/spread at range than a fair few others.
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