Then they can make mig-25 11.0. it doesn’t meet criteria for 13.0+, simple.
MiG-25 would be lower BR than 11.0… you are not even in the same ballpark, nobody is asking for mig-25 or 31 to be 13.0 to my knowledge
I’d love a 10.3 mig-25. İt’s just too iconic for people to not want it
Yak-141 is a special exception in the game. It’s meant to be a stop gap solution and be a filler aircraft for the naval line in the TT. It only got a gun, because it was planned to have one eventually (iirc).
The MiG-25 is a service aircraft that doesn’t currently fit into the state of the game very well at any place. It’s like taking the gun off the F-104 and making it weigh even more and turn even worse…
Brother, you really don’t know what you’re talking about.
1: the Yak-141 is not 12.0 anymore, new BRs, but hey I’m getting messed up by it too anyway so it’s whatever :D
2: the Yak-141 did not suffer before the BR changes, nor does it after. It has very capable missiles, and a pretty decent FM with wonderful acceleration, but pretty bad speed bleed. However the VTOL capability can technically help it win in a dogfight in certain situations. It also has countermeasure :)
3: only a certain testbed of the F-14A can carry and fire the Aim-120A, and the F-14D can (to my knowledge) theoretically carry (with use of outer pylons) and use the Aim-120 missile with its radar. We have neither of those in game.
We do have the Aim-54s however, but that’s not the only thing that makes it worthy of this BR. It has a wonderful fm, a great gun, decent missiles, and the F-14B has a great deal of countermeasures.
I want you to note two main things about this aircraft,
1: zero countermeasures. Good luck fighting Aim-54s and and IR missile when flying this thing
2: no gun. Already stated but needs some re-iteration.
Oh and don’t forget this: the aircraft engines are powerful yes, but it isn’t meant for low altitudes that the war thunder battles take place at. If you go full throttle I have zero doubt in my mind you’ll rip your wings easily in this thing at near all altitudes that aren’t above 10km up.
oh, and if you do try to go Mach 3, good luck melting your aircraft slowly :)))
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zero countermeasures. Good luck fighting Aim-54s and and IR missile when flying this thing
They carry 2x KDS-155 what is 60x flares/chaffs.
It would be nice to see the MiG-25 family in the Soviet tech tree and an event for the Japanese Mig-25
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We (USSR) can get MiG-25 in two variants (which would be useful). Interceptor MiG-25PD and fighter bomber MiG-25BM. In theory, Japan can only get the MiG-25P (captured) version, which would have very limited capabilities. I don’t know if it would be useful (no KDS-155, no R-60M and only R-40R/T).
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Add an aircraft less maneurvable than a Tornado?
Sure, would be fun to no longer be the whale aircraft
Not big deal in simulator.
Well when the US first saw the MiG-25 they saw massive wings and huge air intakes. So they assumed it was some new “Super fighter” and the USSR just played along to scare the west. Then the Israelies clocked it on radar doing mach 3.
So, Like you said, they created the F15 in a panic,
We now know thanks to a Soviet MiG-25 pilot who defected to the west and crash landed in Japan that the MiG-25 isnt as good as the Soviets said it was. The MiG had huge wings because it was made out of titanium because the heat from going Mach 3 would melt aircraft aluminum. It also lacked a look down radar, although this was later changed with the MiG-25PD. They also learned it could not turn, and its engines were taken from balistic missiles and therefore not designed for long flights, It is true the MiG-25 is mach 3 capable, but only for a short ammount of time, soviet MiG-25 pilots are often quoted saying how frusturating it was to intercept the Sr-71, because the Sr-71 could go mach 3 for much longer than the MiG-25.
Another interesting thing about the MiG-25 was it too was designed in a panic. The US was in the process of creating the XB-70, a mach 3 capable bomber,.
It would make the F104 look like a turn fighter
Probably not, though would be fun hunting them in the F3, I doubt the Mig-25s had that great of an RWR and would probably leave them rather vulnerable to an SARH intercept
SPO-15 Beryoza, so practically same as MiG-23MLD (what is pretty good). +R-40TD what can be very deadly if it will be at least same effective as R-24T.
SPO-15 is not actually that good, at least not compared to the RWRs used on the Tornados for example. But would provide some warning at least. Though I doubt you’d ever get into a notch in time. So 4x maybe kills then.
Though I doubt you’d ever get into a notch in time.
That’s what the F-4S and F-14A also thought, on which I then committed genocide by MiG-23MLD. xD
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And F-15A should have 0 CM as well. Oh wait…
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we need mig 25 with the 3,500 km/h speed
Could be wrong but I was under the impression that while it could do mach3+, doing that could cause serious damage to the engine. For example, the foxbat the Israelis detected had to apparently ditch after the engines stopped responding properly to throttle commands. It’s the anecdote I’ve heard but i haven’t yet looked for a source.
The “safe speed” as far as I know is Mach 2.7 that is, any faster than that and the engines tear themselves apart.