CAS seethers never read anything so nothing new here
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Then don’t get hit by them. Stock ammo, stock adjustment of fire, stock gun elevation, no parts and no improved FPE. Plus no movement upgrades so they will be sluggish.
You have all the advantages - you getting hit is more on you than it is on the free spaa.
I like CAS, but there can be an issue where a lot of people may not grind the SPAA line and therefore lack an SPAA, which can cause an imbalance.
But I think its fine, but it should have an increased SP cost 2-3x the base SP cost for an SPAA, it maybe shouldnt be a fully spaded SPAA, perhaps limit it in some way (where appropriate, like not getting the best missile) or it shouldnt be the best for the BR, it maybe even should specifically be one from a slightly lower BR (so for example, if playing Britain at 10.3, you would get the Rapier not Strela/OSA)
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How players who have grinded this vehicles got screwed over?
Because they did it for no reason since you can get them for free now, the issue doesn’t affect me becuase I don’t care that much about it but I can see why someone who bothered grinding the entire SPAA line (which is ignored by some people) doesn’t like seeing them being given away for free
There is a reason as You can grind modifications and use it in all battles
Some SPAA don’t have important modifications as they already start with their best missile (Pantsir, HQ17, Tor-M1, Adats, Strela, Stormer HVM) or the modifications aren’t that important
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Parts/FPE are the most important parts and You need the vehicle in order to get them
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Barely relevant for SPAA unless you’re getting yourself in the frontlines trying to fist fight MBTs
You know that planes/helis can damage You and if You are unable to repair/put out the fire, You might be killed much more eaisly?
You’re not doing a good SPAA job if you let them damage you at all, in fact you’re more likely to die straight away after being hit by a LMUR or some other CAS ordinance, and if you let planes or helis get close enough they can hit you with their guns you deserve the lack of parts and FPE tbh
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Also the smoke granades are useful, tell me how you gonna hide in a slow flakrad when 4 kh29 are coming at you??
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How you know this if the only plane you play its the F-4S and barely touch spaa (2s6)?
I who have the whole germany and israeli TT researched and played, I can say I have no problem at all.
Near-misses can damage and a lot of ordinance can be launched from a long distance. Plus ground units can damage spaa as well. Saying parts are not important to spaa is just stupid.
The only vehicles I don’t research parts first on are the early US tanks that come with crap default ammo. Then, if the upgrade aphe shell is in 1st tier of mods I will research that before parts. Otherwise, parts first, even on spaa.
Damn, there are already 6 Kh-38MT flying mach 10 toward my unarmored AA truck. Good thing I got those parts and FPE in case I get hit by one!
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you missed:
CAS is getting a taste of their own medicine and malding over it and it’s funny
14th of December 2022
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Yeah I’m never going to recover from the crushing addition of free SPAA that’ll just end up as more food for my IR missiles
Yeah, they are highly over rated, which is why the melt downs are funny.
I took my F-2A in to see if the new spaas where as bad as people are saying and was rather unimpressed, you just pop up and toss GNSS bombs at them in pairs and then dive out in a notch.
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Had some further thoughts on this and im on the fence.
Pro
- It gurantees everyone gets access to at least some form of SPAA even if they havent yet grinded that line yet. It is not uncommon for it to be a lower priority for most people
Con
- It eliminates the benefit to grinding this line entirely or even equipping an SPAA on your lineup even if you do have it grinded, freeing up a slot for something else.
So it definetly needs some form of negative/downside, so that still grinding and bringing your own SPAA is worthwhile. I think the best idea for this is just to limit it to a lower BR SPAA, one 0.7-1.0 lower than your line up where possible. Does need to be a little flexible for nations without such options, but in those cases, maybe a weaker loadout on the correct SPAA?
I would also do the increased SP cost for this slot too
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I would like to see the free vehicles being of lines that players haven’t researched, for example, if I only had a medium tank in my lineup I would get a random light tank and a random spaa, but people with the spaa would get medium tanks and light tanks. This would mean that everyone gets to try different vehicles in the tech tree without having to grind the whole thing
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