Thats why you also need the smoke modification duh uh.
Even if the missile gets fooled by the smoke or you hide behind a house, you would need parts to repair the damage made by the blast radius.
Any stock vehicle other than an spaa would be almost completely useless. It would just provide more ways for enemy team to remove tickets.
Just give them free parts and fpe as well as ammo mods
Not necessarily, as the enemy team will be in stock vehicles as well
So they’d still be slow (no movement mods), aim badly (if they can get the aim at all with slow turret) and in many cases sub-standard optics. It’s supposed to incent players to stay in the battle. I might be inclined to just exit the battle and look for a new battle with my main vehicle.
You are assuming the enemy team has a player in same position. Might not be the case.
Me when the free spaa is better than the spaa i took with me.
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Haha, yep, exactly :D
They would be worse than spaded vehicles yes but they would at least be usable. A leopard 2a4 with only HEAT qnd no parts is literally useless in like a 12.0 battle
maybe if they dont put in 12.0 should be 12.3 for the prems
i dont know about you, but as someone who plays copious amounts of only SPAA in top tier i’m not taking a stock bottom br spaa when i can bring a adequate br spaded SPAA, it’s pretty much a nice backup and thats it
Well yes, no parts crap ammo is useless.
But a free tank with only some mods is way worse than exiting the battle and starting a new battle with a vehicle with all mods.
My point is that the suggested system would not be enough incentive to get the ODL players to stay.
You’re missing the wider problem here. We’ve given them 30 free backups with purchase, we’ve added 5 free daily backups, not to mention the economy system which prioritizes activity time, and now we’ve given literal free Abrams plus SPAA to those players. ODL is less seen but still common, why? Because it’s as much of a behavioral and map/mode design problem as it is a problem of player capability.
You can’t just throw concessions upon concessions at those who refuse to change. To use WW2 as an example, if free backups were the ceding of the Sudetenland, free tanks and SPAA is the entirety of Poland and France. It’s obvious that the problem can only be solved in part by free vehicle spawns, and at the end, there’s a point where we draw a line and enforce it.
These changes exculsively benefit premium-vehicle-buyers and players that chose to neglect researching the SPAA technology line. The former is a moneyed interest, both are vocal minorities (overrepresented) in the community. There is no end to the complaining of these people, evidenced by the truckloads of incoherent posts you see daily, vaguely self-victimizing, and blatantly justified by self-interest with little to no attempt to use logic or consider balance. But it is exactly this group of people who throw so many dollars at Gaijin and are catered to in return.
Encouraging such behavior will only make the problem worse. I’ve seen many games slowly die off because they prioritized the needs of high-paying players over everyone else, and I do not wish this to happen to War Thunder. To that end, we should support a sustainable players-first profit model for the game.
Biggest flaw of this is actually pantsir.
I just cant figure why gaijin decided to give soviets free pantsir what is best aa on soviets against helos and most times better compared to BUK. (85% times)
Yes, 1 or 2 pantsirs is not a problem, but when enemy team got 4+ of em , it starts to be a problem even on multiple F&F helos and planes.
Especially when usa example gets Adats as top AA
Gaijin should really balance it, and remove pantsir from free spawn and instead place TOR as “top” aa as free. So it would be more in line with other nations aa’s, and removes that missile spam.
And yes, I play also soviets and it feels dirty that example I got 1 crew for AA’s what I’ve been training around br’s, and now I can keep BUK for larger maps and get a Free pantsir if needed mclos AA instead on shorter maps or where heli spawn can be camped steaight from own spawn
2s6 should replace s1 as the free AA.
Nah, it lacks range , and it would be just slap on face with hammer as “free” aa , when thinking other nations top aa missiles range. So I would say TOR would be just fine.
All nations should receive free AA of roughly equal effectiveness. Right now, some have received the Otomatic, while others have received the S1.
Gaijin should just add better SPAA to all nations then
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The only down side is that my spaa has to fight for kills now.
The dream
If you just want to spade it, I suggest you run assault mode, once you killed two or three AI planes then jump in the CAS to attack ground targets, the points you earn from CAS go towards your SPAA. Can also farm extra mission points if it can scout targets.
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Cool story bro