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Yak130 is not skill depended jet at all, stop pretending it is, your flight characteristics makes any missile weaker. Your gameplay mostly against early AAM which only skilled player can realize in battle, if your awareness terrible, every plane in the game will be skill depended for you. For ground battles you literally have much more efficiency than A4E, you DO NOT stay for 20 seconds vulnerable aiming missile, you drop 4 bombs and fly to recharge them, how else to explain difference is wild. But if you play in Air Battles and lose, then you wrong build your gameplay and its normal for AB, but for RB you are OP
How many times you lost before to learn it… I’m sure a lot, but how you can deny that drop 4 TV kabs is easier than manually contol NORDs
Not many. Lost more times to it when it every german main would spawn it the moment you killed his l/44 leopards, yak130 doesnt even come close to the spam. It the soviet tree had 0 spaa that could counter it at the time
Nords are trash now. Bullpups and kabs as far as ground rb is concerned are guaranteed kills. a4e gets 5 kills and more versatility with them. The yak gets 4
That’s gaslighting levels of saying “Just press “W” playing Soviet Union”. Like the AGM-12B that you stated I consider overpowered, again I ask, tell me where I said the Yak-130 is bad, where I am defending the Yak-130 to not have the battle rating increased and whatever, fortunately I haven’t said those things. At this point I think you have stopped reading entirely and are sticking around for the first two lines and so.
In ground battles, the strike capabilities of both planes are similar, not the same but also not too much different, you can either play safe and use only TV-guided bombs, return safely and repeat the cycle just as the Yak-130 and still score points or use the AGM-12B as well, since you said TV-guided bombs are guaranteed:
On one thing I can agree, four is indeed bigger than two. But I can’t agree on “imbalanced A-4E” part, whatever, it existed for years at lower battle rating, no one bats a eye, then the Yak-130 and suddenly TV-guided bombs are a issue and that’s where the community draws the line and what I wanted to discuss about is this inconsistency on the topic and overreaction of the community, A-4E is cool because the frame is terrible for dogfighting but you’re still destroying ground vehicles, that’s what a strike plane does, a tank won’t create wings out of nowhere, fly and shoot you down.
As @Pangolin_Fan said I can’t disagree is that:
That’s about most vehicles, like the M1A2 SepV3 which also another good example of adaptation required for a new vehicle, you have threads like The new Abrams is too OP, which I can’t tell if it’s satirical or not, but you have gems like:
To justify a—supposedly—overpowered vehicle, if it’s western: That’s ok, it’s reparation, it’s fairness, if it’s eastern: Bias! Bias! Bias! and whatever comes out of the magic tophat of excuses but never knowledge that the problem may be in between the chair and the computer.
That’s why I do appear defending the Yak-130 but I’m trying to support the side that is actively pointing out this inconsistency on treatment on these vehicles based on the overreaction of its implementation. If the Yak-130 is going a higher battle rating based on opinions of players that think it’s way too good for battle rating 9.3, nothing fairer than moving the american A-4E (Early), the german G.91 R/4, the swiss Hunter F.58A (1971), the british Buccaneer S.2, the taiwanese F-100A, the taiwanese F-100F, the italian G.91 Y, the israeli A-4E (Early) and israeli A-4E (Early) Mod to a higher battle rating as well.
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In you text around posts your words have one meaning : " Why you cry about Yak if there were always A4E, while YAK doesn’t have FLAERS", you instantly started comparing it to A4E as the second one stronger than Yak, because on 9.7 it has 5(!) TV bombs, you already considered Yak as weaker jet, you came to these type of topics because people say its OP, while you try to say “no, its not”.
Ayit sits on 9.7BR not for popular nation, Gaijin is interested into bringing players to different nations too making some vehicles slightly more capable in battles, but those manor nations will always stay minor, meaning there is not battle where 4x Ayits simultaneously wiping whole team, but since USSR is major, nation number 1 by use starting from rank 6, per battle statistically more Yaks at the same time which can wipe whole team OUT OF INSTA DANGER, you literally drop your 4 TV bombs for 5 seconds on 6 km height and dodge any missile if there is SPAA, cannon SPAA is not threat at all. A4E Early is squadron vehicles, for most of players is not even priority, for most players AGM12 its difficult weaponry, people rather use 2 TV bombs, as you wrote, and come to reload, rather than crash from SPAA that appeared on spawn while you paralized falling to target tank. Yak has 4 TV bombs, Early 2 TV bombs, but any American 8.7-9.3 jet does not have CCIP to be efficient striker, those 2 TV bombs could compensate that technical gap, question for you, 2 or 4 TV bombs can make more mess per take off, I suppose answer is clear. Conclusion: Yak is twice more potential per take off, and when this potential given to more players, it becomes out of balance.
Vehicles should be balanced according to average player, rather than those mutants who cares about digits in stats, if average player more effective on the X vehicle, its get nerfed by BR if BR gap allows it, for Yak-130 that gap is still open for 9.7. There are suggestions: Lift to 9.7BR; Remove 2 KABs but leave on 9.3BR; Leave as it is but expand hangar for USA with 1 jet with all comfy stuff, because other nations have AlphaJet, Buccaneer, Yaks, but only Yak highlights more than any other as assault jet. There is no Amercian bias, German bias etc etc because nations have strong counter in USSR, while other nations DO struggle to counter USSR on 6-9 ranks.
Even after Yak 130 nerf attention again will drop to USSR premium jet J22M1A because it has Kosava bombs player can drop out of range of SPAA and with new TV mechanic control bomb to targets, in 3/9 flight none of SPAA is a threat, maximum can intercept bombs if pilot just uses small part of brain. Of course you can mention A6E and skippers ,but jet is doomed if there is OSA and Tunguska
10.0 actually
Well, new upcoming BR changes put A6E to high probability face Pancir, dead striker. Yak 130 on 9.7BR, good now need to cry to lift to 10.0 :DD
The A4E is an air RB compliant aircraft, not terrible but not OP either
The Yak130 is a massive heap of manure, people overrate it because of “broken FM” where the broken FM in question is accelerating like an 8.7 fighter despite being a 9.0 attacker. But this is a common trope with this community, you can have a plane with dogwater stats but one good stat in common that makes it somewhat tie with other BR range aircraft and people go bananas. Like how they glaze the ta152C’s climb rate and airspawn despite it gets spanked by the J7W1 in an engagement, or how the ki83 has great engine power but the guns have late fuse which make you get like 4 plus kill assists and it also can climb as good as it wants but the tu2s outdogfights it, or the f101c voodoo which has AVERAGE turn at transonic while becomes a flying building the moment you go below mach 0.98 (people even schizo enough to say it’s the American MiG19)
The A4E has an old damage model, the Yak130 has a new damage model, getting a single 7.7mm to the FCS completely kills it.
The A4E has flares, missiles and two guns with decent ammo conservation.
The Yak130 has one of the best guns in game but has a dog water ammo count, and needs a lot of work to get the gun on target cause it needs to get slow enough to lead on people.
The Hunter F58 literally turns inside it past 700 IAS.
Both the yak130 and the F101C are the worst planes the game has ever added, but somehow people glaze them because they have a slightly above average static thrust engine performance even if it’s barely better than the competition.
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Every plane overperforms fm-wise in that aspect.
Not really, they lack thrust even if they have 1.4x g load tolerance. You can’t tell me how a B66B Destroyer has worse climb rate at 3 degrees of pitch than a fully loaded Boeing 737-800NG on TOGA (set 90 percent of brute engine force) and 15 degrees of climb. Have you been to airshows? the planes carry fuel tanks and yet they can climb vertically for almost a km without using afterburner. In game the only thing that can climb vertically without afterburner is the av8 harrier.
Community cryin at is best.
Yak is moving to 9.7, but let’s forget those A4E’s.
Gotta love this “russian bias”
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You know, USA mains always crying the loudest.
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Just give it its R-73’s and make it go up in BR with a CM pod or something.
Agreed they have some of the best CAS and ground vehicles in game and yet are some of the loudest complainers.
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Almost entirely Germany mains crying here. U.S. mains have played the A-4E and realized the Yak-130 isn’t OP.
Well I saw a lot of USA/Israeli mains complaining here which own A-4. So, that’s what I noticed. Maybe I missed something.
i think the only reason why they are claiming it to be OP is due to the fact its new point and click vehicle and is getting spammed as such, i don’t typically see any of the A-4s when i do play in the BR range 8.7 onward, as there are other vehicles that are either arguably better (AV-8C due to CCIP and countermeasures) or just don’t use aviation in their lineup, hell there’s some matches where i’m the only one who brought air, but yeah, main point is, it’s only claimed to be OP because its getting used like a new vehicle, everyone’s flocking to it, its a light strike fighter and its being flown as such yes its 20 or so years newer than the A-4s but still, give it a update, or 3 and this should die down
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Yes, that’s the issue, it’s not that the Yak-130 isn’t under BRed, it’s the hypocrisy of the people complaining about the Yak-130 while still trying to claim the A-4Es, and Hunter F58 are some how not.
Especially now there are more missile SPAAs in the game now that have the range to engage them before they can get a TRK lock then there was when the A4Es where added (pretty much every nation has a stinger equivalent SPAA at ~9.3 now).
For those claiming the A4s are not under tiered, look at the Ayit, it has a better A2G load out (3x Mavs, 2x Walleye ERs and 2x AAMs) at 10.0 then the Hawk 200s at 10.7.
The people demanding that the Yak-130 alone is under BRed and should go up while the A-4Es (particularly the 2 Israeli ones) remain where they are are showing the exact bias they are accusing others of.
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Problem is 8.3 BRs dont usually have a means for dealing with it.