The Yak-130 and the A4E drama

Since the addition of the yak130 the community has been disturbed by its effectiveness and performance in both air and especially ground.

But the way i see it is that yes the only reason why it is so good is because its being spammed like crazy ( 5 yaks in 1 game) and the enemy spaa cant take them down either by the inexperience of the player, overwhelmed or not even trying to take them down (with an spaa or a jet) which leads to a loss.

However most are comparing it with the A4E from israel which many forget that not many people play it either for the lack of interest or the real life geopilitical situation the country finds itself in.

For comparison the YAK-130 has:

  • 4x KAB-500Kr Guided bombs
  • A good airframe
  • Amazing acceleration
  • no flares but it can make sharp turns

Meanwhile the Israeli A4E has:

  • 2x AGM-62A Walleyes and 1x GBU-8 guided bombs
  • 60x flares
  • A bad airframe for dogfighting
  • Terrible accelaration due to the engine

And the US A4E has:

  • Only 2x AGM-62A Walleye guided bombs
  • Same flight model, engine and flares count as the isreali A4E
  • Locked behind the squadron vehicle grind

The possible solution?

Increase the br of the YAK-130 to 9.7.
wait till te hype and spam goes down (which i doubt it will)

Do you guys have any other suggestions?

move both yak and A4s to 9.7

you also forgot that the A-4E has an RWR

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At that br they would be obselete

Also those get air to air missiles.

And I cant get hype of yak 130’s in airgames…
9.0, low ammo and it burns it instantly.
No Cm and no A2A missiles
So you get a 9.0 basebomber

That’s a problem. You took the time to list the features of both aircrafts and end up advocating to increase Yak-130 battle rating when clearly A-4E outside of flight performance is better when this topic is discussing aircraft and ground so we can assume it’s close air support. In terms of weaponry both are somewhat similar, for fair treatment both could have the battle rating increased equally.

Bias:


Not bias:

Oops, sorry for mislabeling them, gameplay is almost damn same. Also notice how there is 0 ally yaks and 1 ally skyhawk. So much yak spam.

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i dont really think the A4E should get a br increase just for fair treatment and lets be real they are rarely seen in battles these days, and even when they are deployed the players using then die in an instant due to incompetense

not a single spaa in sight

both are bad for dog fighting you didn’t put that one gets fox2s and the other gets nothing both always die to spaa anyway

Not like that spaa had any chances against skyhawk anyway. As good as another tank. So no big difference.

So how do we keep on going with the current argument? Be fair for a moment—You compare both airplanes which is fair and advocate for battle rating increase out of the blue, no justification outside being spammed, but the A-4E can’t be increased in battle rating because of player skill. Every airplane has their share of bad players, it’s not the Skyhawk; So don’t increase the battle rating of none of the three mentioned airplanes. If it’s a player issue then the plane is completely fine at battle rating 9.3 if that’s the case.

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you mean aim9b?

then what do you suggest to fix the situation?

yea and yak130 has no flares so no amount of top gun maneuvers will save you

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it can dodge fin-92 missiles a few times without flares

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Live as it’s, as people said for years A-4E existed at lower battle rating when the Yak-130 is implemented half-baked I must say because it could be implemented at battle rating 10.7 minimum in ground battles and have all of its features—it’s a problem. You have also to consider that A-4E (Early) has access to a additional AGM-12B Bullpup guided missiles, if you use the AGM-62A Walleye I guided bomb camera to guide you’ll have easier view of any stationary anti-air vehicle you might wanna to engage, that’s five air-to-ground ordinances in total.

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what will people use for cas if they nerf them to 9.7 and an unsuspecting yak130 will still die since no RWR

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the real question is if your average war thunder player would even do that in the first place (using the guided bomb to scan for spaa) they would rather use a normal bomb than the guided one

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