Thank you very much
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Rules basically are unique parts built which the Ho-Ri II was. As long as enough data is given (a shape) then it can be proposed and added issue being with stuff like O-I which all we have is track link and little data. This has to much guess work as cast metal track link could be fake.
Ships can be blueprint because naval architecture half the battle is the math no second chance! or you end up like the Vasa!
Some months ago I made a simple and unfinished model of Chi-Ri while trying to learn how to use Blender a little bit. Yesterday morning I modified it to (sloped) Ho-Ri to try and explore its physical dimensions. It’s very basic because I’m a beginner, but nonetheless it conforms to the dimensions on the drawings.
At the stage of the mockup, they had apparently not yet decided the gun depression solution, so I based the casemate on “Ho-Ri II.” I’ve determined that the roof bulge must have spanned the whole width if they were to enable the gun to use its full field of fire. If it was like Amusing Hobby’s model, then it would only be able to achieve 10 degrees of depression when aiming directly forwards. Because the gun is offset to the right, this symmetrical full-width roof extension accommodates both the breech recoil and loading tray.
Although it looks a bit goofy, from my examination of the sideview blueprint, I think there is actually evidence that it was generally shaped like this. It could be more or less rounded on the sides.
As an aside, in War Thunder, the UFP of sloped Ho-Ri seems unrealistically thick. The sloped armour of Japanese tanks typically targeted an effective thickness slightly superior to the thickness of the flat plates. I suspect that the UFP was actually between 30~50mm thick to target an equivalent of 75~125mm (slightly superior, accounting for toughness of the plate against ricocheting rounds).
My theory is that the sloped Ho-Ri mockup was 7.4m long (the chassis being slightly extended from Chi-Ri by moving the idler back), and through this model I was able to get a pretty close matchup to the mockup photograph, so I think it’s likely correct. This is the chassis length of “Ho-Ri II” if it was truncated to only span from sprocket to idler. Such a compact chassis was allowed by moving the engine forward and putting all crew in the superstructure.
Edit:
There’s one more slightly interesting detail I wanted to mention. The back of the casemate of Ho-Ri is most likely angular in a somewhat similar fashion to the Ho-Ni III, rather than being a single flat plate tilted 15 degrees forward (such as on the Amusing Hobby model). There are several reasons that this seems to be the case, but the main one is the profile of the back door on the drawing.
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What is this genius anti overpressure hat ?
a 20mm plate straight into the fighting compartment
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finally, Ho-Ri waifu edition.
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The true replacements.
I’m stealing that image for sure
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or bounce
Excellent work
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Pretty much agree with everything except this. I’d take all the unique ww2 vehicles we can get if there’s enough info on them. They’ve already broken this rule with the Soyuz, and despite the controversy, it wouldn’t actually be such an issue if they also accepted these vehicles for ground and air, and didn’t conveniently make an exception for naval where USSR gets a ship that would have never had such performance. It’s much better than the “replacements” we are now getting (i.e. F-84 replacing r2y2)
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The Ho-Ri II is a lot cooler than the Ho-Ri we have in-game
I’d gladly give up my premium Ho-Ri to get the Ho-Ri II
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you wont have to you would most likely have a nice line up.
The rule never existed, Lovecraft.
Incomplete prototypes were their rule. If it was incomplete to some degree → it’s added. Case example: The O-I can be added; it just won’t for some dumb, silly reason.
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Ships are also different for the rules.
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LOWE tank would be nice
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was any part of it built (unique)
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It was cancelled in favor of the Maus so maybe not, only wooded mockups was built but I assume it would share some parts with the Tiger II’s 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 gun and powered by its Maybach HL 230 P 30 engine or I might be wrong.
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If you can argue there was a unique part you can suggest it. (ships need complete print there unique)
Still not guarantee but the XF-103 is a great example of what the limit of unique part is (ejection seat) if you can cross that bar it could be done.
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