The Turm III needs to be 8.7 at least it's too good

That’s fine just completely ignored the autoloader and speed that it has over every other vehicle at the BR, as well as the 30mm cannon that is deadly to all light vehicles.

If the M60A1 AOS is 8.3 with HEAT, mediocre armor at best, and a Stabilizer, then the TURM should absolutely be 8.7 since it gets all that the M60A1 gets+ an Autocannon + an autoloader. The only difference is slightly weaker armor which Id take in a heartbeat.

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Artificially give it Falcon APDS on the autocannon and boot it 9.0+ where it belongs. That is my opinion on the thing. The different hull it has compared to the standard Leopard eats shots it has no business eating.

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Im played both and i take M60A1 by far. Turm 3 is extremly weak. Yes the 30mm is very good again certain light armor and auto loader can save you some times but thats all, the 99% of the times you die first due the giant frontal ammo rack and very poor armor. If you want move Turm 3 to 8.7 first move ALL 8.7 to 9.0.
Turm 3 is fine in 8.3 and im saying that as Turm 3 user and common Soviet/USA 8.3 player aswell.

what’s even worse is having to do it in an M551

Why would the Turm III ever be moved to 8.7 that would reduce its sales

Ah, fair point. It’s like asking the VIDAR to move up, it just won’t happen until it stops selling lol

The Turm III could definitely go to 8.7. Fast chassis, outstanding firepower coupled with a main gun autoloader, stabilizer, great gun depression, good gun handling. Really the only downsides to it is the thin armour and the lackluster gun elevation, which prevents you from blasting pilots out of the sky with the autocannon. As for armour, it doesn’t really matter. Just think of it as a light tank instead of a mbt.