I mean if bombers would spawn about 1-2k meters higher, we would have a little bit easier of a time. Even right now, about everything can intercept a B-29 before it gets to its first drop point. It only gets worse as the Br goes up for these big pinata’s .
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Just for context, the one second burst mass of all combined b29 machine guns is around 6kg/s .Tu4 is 29.65kg/s
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doesnt help that gaijin is granting fighters airspawns at damn near rip speed, they really need to look at raising bomber spawns on maps where fighters are airspawning
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Yeah, it would be happy if heavy bombers spawned at a higher altitude, but it wouldn’t happen because I saw some fighter pilots who complained and wanted me to J-out or leave the match because they couldn’t climb up to catch me when I did the sideclimb thing.
Things would be even worse, and the complaint will be larger if we spawn higher,
I am a bit happy that Washington B.1 has added this update because I waited for the British B-29, which was part of our history, but frightened too much to spade it XD
But he said “But B-29 has more ammo per belt and it makes longer bursts, so it is equal.”
I mean yeah the sideclimbing was an issue and still is with things like Yak-28 pilots, but now we got plenty of things capable of getting to the strategic bomber altitude. Not to mention the playerbase has largely learned to climb compared to years ago when half the team would beg the other half to actually gain altitude.
Its incredible how lazy jet jocks are, they love to accuse anyone of spaceclimbing when its just a bomber at 30k ft that would take them 2 minutes to reach. They expect you to just j out and die. WT has been catering to the cod minded players for too long
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Exactly. If it takes a Me-262 less than 5 minutes from the start of the game to do a suicide climb at my nose, it should not take more than 7 minutes to properly get to my altitude or higher and just remove me from existence. Plenty of aircraft outclimb the 262 as it is and I’m glad the A2D’s are on my team because those things climb up past me in less than a minute with their airspawn.
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yeah, the fi-t 23mm shell has a high amount of explosive filler so its deadly out to its max range, where 50cal depends a lot more on velocity, and its damage really drops off. velocity definitely is the Achilles heel for the 115x23mm belts.
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I disagree. Generally prop planes are easier to kill, and to add to that affect, it still took 4-8 rounds minimum to kill a target.
And don’t mind my accuracy, I hadn’t flown them in some time, and test flew them to make sure I wasn’t incorrect.
.50 cal APi-T
Vs
23mm FI-T
Wdym I’ve admitted time and time again the 23mms are better… you’re literally just making up nonsense at this point.
But the better defensive armament is not justification enough to be 2 br steps above the B-29.
Answer me this, if you removed the defensive armaments from both, are they, or are they not the same plane?
(Yes I know the B-29 has more WEP power, and 8k more~ bomb load)
Test fire against AI plane, which open fires to you at 400m-ish, brang it into argument which we talks about real match…
Glad that you quoted part of my counter-reply, so no need to say it again.
B-29 with 50cal cannot have a chance against interceptors with autocannons
While Tu-4 with 23mm can resist against interceptors with autocannon, and can deal with some American jets with 50cal, unless they shoot missiles at you on uptier.
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No?
It is worlds apart, and everyone except you agrees it is a major difference.
I wonder why you just want to backstab everyone who tries to buff Tu-4.
Because of your hatred against American planes.
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12.7x99mm
And
23x115mm
How is that any bit relevant to how much damage they do versus planes?
That was your argument, how much damage they do.
Because player-controlled fighters will decide when to shoot at longer distances.
and B-29 will be outranged and outgunned by enemy jets armed with autocannons
(Because 50cal cannot deal significant damage over 500m unless you pilot-snipe him, and even if you lit fire on enemy jet, they still have time enough to shoot you down before their hull burnt into a crisp.)
While Tu-4 can shoot them back because Tu-4 also has autocannons, which have similar range, and can just cut their wing off, which makes them instantly unable to shoot you down because they lost control of their fuselage.
I really wonder how many times I need to explain the same thing.
From there, and here,
At this rate, I reckon I need to think that you are ragebaiting me to get me tempered hard.
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lol sure. Read the second paragraph again please.
Yes arent worlds apart. Means it’s not an instant win for the 23mm.
12.7mms lights more fires upon a hit generally. (Which typically results in a vehicle burning down)
23mms do more raw damage
Maybe it’s because I’m the only one who isn’t blind?
But yet you say I am biased against American planes which simply isn’t true… I quite love the IRIAF F-14A among others.
Just as I quite enjoy playing bombers.
I wonder how many times you’ll continue to intentionally dodge my questions.
No, it is worlds apart and means it is instant win for 23mm compared to 50cal.
Because 23mm’s API-T or FI-T doesn’t even need to light fire to kill the enemy plane because they can deal drastically better raw damage, it also has a chance to light fire. Because it is
Armour Piercing Incendiary-Tracer, and Fragmentation Incendiary-Tracer shell.
Reason why do you see 23mm NR-23 lights have less fire is that you don’t even need to.
If we just think NR-23 was 12.7mm instead of 23mm and deals the same raw damage just for arguing’s sake, NR-23 could light more fire than M2 because
-If we think about 12.7mm UB, you might have more ammo per belt because 50cal ammunitions are smaller than 23x115mm ammo.
-and NR-23’s belt contains more incendiary shells compared to M2’s belt.
-also NR-23 has a higher rate of fire compared to M2.
Congratulations to you for simply backstabbing everyone else who can fight for the buff Tu-4 down
Because you just don’t want to see American planes get buffs.
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First of all, I didn’t intentionally dodge that question; it is your problem that you cannot get the answer from context.
Secondly,
You are goddamn right, Tu-4 and B-29 are sharing similar specifications outside of defensive weaponry
I really wonder why I should need to answer that simple question, which we both know the truth.
The problem is Defensive weaponry! You are the only one who cannot get it.
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