The T-34_85 is top be moved down

M26 is more easy to hit, turret front, ufp, lfp is vulnerable. But Panther 2 have rangefinder, better engine, better gun, so why it must be 6.0 when M26 is 6.7?

He’s talking about the T-44, and obviously making a point with an ad absurdum figure of speech.

The M26 should stay where it is. So should the T-44.

M26 should stay in 6.3.

Thats is.

The T-44 is mostly fine at its tier, it might need to be moved down one tier. The T-34-85 though is a big swing and a miss. The fact that it goes up against tank that it can’t pen from the front most of the time is a problem. it’s only on some maps that you’re lucky enough to go on the outside to get side shots and that’s even if you hit right spot.

What round are you shooting that you have hard time killing tanks from flank using Zis-S-53?
Like only tank that might take on 85mm to side and fail to pen are like Tiger II track armor eating shot or Black Prince track armor detonating it too soon.
Also it having hard time against heaviest tanks in WT is same for M4A3 76 and many others.
Like, good luck taking on KV-1 in your Strv m/42 or Chi-He.

T-34-85 is totally fine at 5.7

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I just can’t wait until I get the last upgrade for the T-34-85 because then I’m done with the tank forever.

Well I got it fully upgraded and I get to use the BR-365P round finally but, I’m my first two matches I got killed before I could even fire because the hull armor is so weak I mean it has a 5/10 chance of deflecting a round.

It’s too high in the B.R. pool. It shouldn’t mainly go up against Panther’s, Tiger’s, Tiger 2’s and much higher.

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It’s a fantasy that it can do anything at it’s tier right now. It needs to go against things 5.7 and lower if they plan to keep it where it is right now.

The problem is that the T-34-85 at max is effective at 5.7 and it actually needs to be moved down to a B.R. of 4.7 to stop this insanity of it battling targets why out of its tier. If it can only maybe pen at a certain spot and with using certain ammo that you’re not going to kill what you’re shooting at in one shot. Then maybe it shouldn’t be going up against all of these higher tiers. At max it should go up against panthers.

Have you considered that problem might not be the tank, but you?
At least in RB you have consistently more deaths then kills in tanks that 90% of community would consider OP/Broken/Good.
Maybe look for answer what you do wrong in GFRB that causes you to do badly in many tanks and see what tanks you do well?

T-34-85 at 4.7 would be absurd we might as well then move Tiger II to 5.7 so it wont face cold-war tanks every match or T-64 to 8.0 so it has actual chance to use that composite armor.

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Mate, come on. Look at the normalisation performance of the 85mm gun and tell me with a straight face that it should be going up against 3.7 tanks. This vehicle consistently does very well and some tough opponents it faces around this BR range are shuffling upwards.

Anyone want to buff their vehicles. Don’t judge him too much

No judgement tbh. I disagree with his opinion, but this is a game and it doesn’t imply anything about anyone’s character here :D

I have played the tank so much that I agree if you get a map where you can go on the outside then you’re mostly fine. But going up against most of the higher tier tanks straight on because you don’t have an option to go on the side, you get killed in one shot. You may or may not even get a round off or even have time to aim.

I’m assuming that it will still go up against higher tier tanks, that’s why I said that the Panther is the max tier that it should see. I don’t suggest that it goes lower than 4.7 because that would be insane.

Like every other tank in WT.

Yeah, no. That’s just as egregious as the German mains who said the Tiger H1s should have been 4.7.

4.7 is already insane.

If that’s like every other tank then it shouldn’t be a problem. The Tiger if anything derives too be up-tiered, it should never be down tiered. I’m just saying that that 4.7 it wouldn’t have to see such higher tiers because of its B.R., if you ask me that’s the only thing that they could do to make it fair. It would never be down tiered because it’s already being up-tiered at 100% of the time at 5.7.

Look at the ISU-152, it sits at B.R. 4.7, and it’s way better than the T-34-85.