you right, But after the Moderinization program for the Su25 to convert it into a more capable and Multi-role Fighter, an upgrade and a new suite of armament was chosen after the upgrade to fill its Multi role Capability with its upgraded Engines, Avionics, and targeting system, gave it the opportunity to be revived and return to service, which turn to be too late for current Aerial or ground striking Engagements.
su39 is incredibly solid as it is, i don’t think it needs a change. You can play it in air really well as it is, you get r73’s, r60’s and a ton of ground ordinance. I literally have like a 12.0 ground k/d on that since i grinded it in air battles with 20-50 ground kills a match. On top of that, if you give it radar missiles, it’s probably gonna go up in br, which might as well be a nerf
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Dont worry, if it got uptiered it will get much more of its Current armaments, Such As the IR version of Kh25 ( Named Kh25MTP with 20km lock range 8 of them with the Dual Ejectors Racks DEL), including the GNSS variant, which will keep its primary role as a strike aircraft aside of its multi role capability.
its still deeply modernized Su-25.
it will never perform in A2A duty same as dedicated fighter platforms. Adding any sort of radar missile to it will just lead to being placed at higher BR where its airframe will start to struggle even more (see Hawk 200 vs Hawk 200 RDA, it would be similiar situation).
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are you ok with the plane going up in br ?
if it gets ir guided kh25’s, it’s gonna be a huge nerf since it’s gonna face toptier aa’s, and aa spam is bad enough as it is, not to mention how disgusting 12.7 aa’s are.
Very understandable, but since it also involved ( Counted ) as an aerial Defense fighter ( Capable of carrying AAM`s), aside of its Ground Strike Capability which is Completely Outstanding, The other role for su39 as Multi role fighter to destroy enemy air using Advanced Missile and electronics, will be Equal to its Ground striking Capability, which will be equal to its Primary role in real life as a Multi Role Strike aircraft and a universal platform.
I think there might be issue with your translating software because this doesnt make much sense
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about that side, the Kh25MTP will be similar in performance to the AGM mavericks american Air to ground guided missile, Since the soviets or Russia Built a counter to such FNF western Design, it will be more historical and accurate, even close to realism to what its now for the Kh25ML`s ( the laser version ).
so dont Expect it to get uptiered alot really.
- MiG-23ML has much worse R-23 not R-27
- Su-39 is the only aircraft in game with LDIRCM
- Su-39 isn’t the only aircraft without radar missiles at 11.3
- Su-39 has IR missiles much more advanced than any fighter at the BR
now lets consider it gets R-27R1
- BR would rise to 12.0-12.7
- it would face enemies that make it much harder to play than at the current BR
now lets consider it gets R-77 (carried them too)
- BR would rise to 13.0-13.3
the Su-39 already has quite a lot of unique unfair Buffs for the BR it’s at, adding Radar guided missiles would increase it’s BR to a point where playing it wouldn’t be any fun at all
don’t shoot yourself in the foot, take the OP plane when you get it
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Thanks lemme correct.
if they move it even from 11.3 to 11.7, it’s gonna get a ton of 12.7 uptiers (i tried to play f111f cas and it was borderline unplayable with the uptiers)
R-27R1 would move it higher than 11.7 tho
it’s ok at 11.3 because you can sort of avoid it if you’re flying in a fighter
with Radar missiles that wont be so easy anymore
i really think gaijin doesn’t give a fuck about historical accuracy since kh25ml’s are supposed to be tandem heat warheads as they were made against bunkers and s25o’s are supposed to have a radio fuse since they were made to detonate above ground to inflict maximum amount of damage to infantry. Neither is modelled correctly in game.
Mig23ML Do have the capability to carry R-27R1 but still not in game, the Su39 IR missiles are Advanced, but its Useless when the enemy has more capable medium\Long range Radar guided AAM`s, some give or takes in BR changes will be Acceptable, But the thing they will need to Increase the maximum BR and Rearrange the whole thing, With a trade of another aircrafts that also do have the capability to carry Radar missiles but it still did not get, which will be more realistic.
Weapons area always a Balance decision for Gaijin
most weapons behave Ahostircally in Air battles, most vehicles Air and Ground have Ahistorical ammunition types too for balance
so true and that kind of sad brother.
a Bomber is not supposed to be able to easily Kill enemy Interceptors
it literally wouldn’t change much for the kh25ml since it would overpressure either way, the s25o’s would be nerfed if they were historical, but at least there would be a reason to use s25of’s and ofm’s, plus they’d be funny/trolly in air with radio fuse.
Gaijin always takes the path of least effort - something isn’t implemented either for ‘balancing’ or because it won’t have a real effect in game