I don’t know if CAS should be nerfed, but the time of ARH-based SPAAs has arrived, and said arrival is necessary for most if not all countries.
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ARH SPAA is likely too powerful, however War Thunder does need Python-5 based SPYDER at minimum as well as other 20 - 25km based SPAA solutions.
If and when we see the results of Gaijin fixing 20km limit on CAS, we can see if more is needed.
Agreed. But I think we can all agree that KH-38s should have been added with or after those new SPAA were added (and in fairness, probably other weapon systems like the PGM-2000 and later AGM-65 variants)
Instead as you said, we’ve needed new top tier SPAA for at least 2 years now and the fact we’ve gotten nothing is deeply concerning, especially for the 7 nations with very weak top tier SAMs and the 2 with absolutely none.
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CAS should be , cause top tier isn’t the only BR in the game. Low tier BR have no way of countering CAS beside spawning in their plane, It will benefit ground battle as a whole not just top tier , while I agree that if artificial nerf might be too much. Then increase the cost of SP for CAS weapon should be enough but that should be left for another thread I guess
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They won’t be, their range will be significantly hindered by the lack of any initial speed, the most powerful aspect will be the opportunity to completely negate CAS capabilities for way more time than nowadays (now that i think about it, we were talking about SPAAs right? They would actually do their job 🤔)
And everybody in the middle is just
Testing would confirm or deny that suspicion.
And I apologize for any combative language my previous posts have, we have to work together.
could not agree more
The issue is that early ARH SAMs wouldnt be strong enough. I think the early SLAMRAAMs had a range of about 15km. But the later ones might be too strong with a range of about 40km.
The issue is the lack of SAM options in that 20-30km range mark. So either they would need to nerf them a bit or jump SPAA ahead notably and add weapon systems like ARM alongside them.
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Nerfing them to that 20-30km range wouldn’t be a bad idea.
I would def agree with this compromise, it follows the same principle of the counterfactual addition of a weakened R-73 to the MiG-29 some years ago.
Yeah, opens the door for things like Sky Sabre (if they figure out a solution for external radars) that normally have about 50km rang (or 100+km range depending on the missile used)
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Nothing in-game has a range that exceeds 20km currently due to the game limitation, and even when that limitation is lifted, there’s still the fact that ALL IR guided air to ground weapons are using the AGM-65D/G seeker limitations.
We don’t know what PGM and KH-38 ranges are supposed to be for IR lock, anything we think up will be purely speculation.
One of my problems with higher tier AAs is that they can’t engage multiple enemies at the same time, which would be solved by these new systems.
That’s definitely an addition we needed yesterday.
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i totally agree a nerf for kh38t’s is absolutely necessary
I have a proposal; add me on discord (skoma25), we get into a custom match, flat map, i spawn pantsir, you spawn whatever aircraft you want to and try to doge the missiles i launch at you as you spawn. it should be easy, right? just throttle up and turn the plane!
I know how to prevent it
But you ready to stop playing ground RB and embrace air RB 2.0? don’t waste your time get MBTs get some cheap light tanks and good jet instead because that how you play ground RB theses days
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Personally I really think that AA missiles such as the amraam should be reduced in sp cost as sp cost doesnt affect arb anyways. I get that the US lacks SPAA to counter long range USSR aircraft due to doctrine policies but in my opinion its whack that the amraam only costs a small amount less sp than taking AGM-65Ds which are in no way the counter to the Su-34’s loadout but ignoring that lmao.
The US ground capability is fantastic coming from a USA main, but the br is heavily plagued with lack of ability to counter SU-34’s long range spam (and high speed of the missiles). Hopefully this upcoming update with more nations getting better AA missiles and groundstrike capabilities it will even out.
The SU-34 is stupidly strong because the SAMs it faces are not good enough. Before the latest patch russia had the best SAM but didn’t have the strongest CAS so it balanced out a bit. As it is now they have the best CAS and the best SAM which is pretty oppressive.
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Ah yes, the only was to prevent planes in a tank gamemode is to not play tanks. Exactly, the reason I play tanks is to not play tanks but planes.
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