Please explain how im hypocrite here? I have looked at my message multiple times but I can’t find it.
Only thing i came up with is that i have not given arguments…
Firstly, Pantsir can eliminate nato AGM, GBU because those things fly slow (US AGMs have top speed about 0.9M), US also create less explosion, sometimes it takes more than 1 agm to kill a leopard or t90. Meanwhile kh 38s has top speed upto 2.2M and more explosive mass than AGM, that thing can kill you even you stay behind a rock. Only few nations have the spaa that can shot down agm and pantsir is on the top of the list.
Secondly who taught you to ignore the SPAA while using CAS? Spaa stand still for most of the time while tanks are continously moving around the map and hiding behind the obstacles. You ignore those spaa you will never have chance to fly high
Still waiting for Gaijin to implement the fix that was passed to the devs about AGM-65 speed they are currently way too slow compared to IRL .
No, Pantsir has the possibility of eliminating low-fired AGMs directly at it.
It can’t do it when they’re fired at tanks and from high altitude.
SPAA are not a threat to winning matches. Winning teams are what taught me, and I get to fly high because I ignore them.
They cannot kill me, and they can’t kill tanks, so there’s no reason to target them.
He has no idea what hypocrite means, but in any case, these are his stats in the Su-25SM3:
900+ ground kills and just 166 deaths.
Here’s his Su-34 stats:
So you pretty much nailed it, he’s calling you a hypocrite because he has zero valid arguments against your point of people having zero valid points about why Su-34 isn’t OP. He btw also mostly plays in squads whenever he’s not playing Russia himself, just so he doesn’t have to fight against Russia when he’s playing Israel or UK.
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As always with Russian mains, they cry because they want to keep their almost 80% win rate. Exactly the players who have no brains and only play OP stuff…
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Where do such numbers come from?
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SU34 is perfectly balanced, why?
- It doesnt have thermals
- Kh38 is very dead husky-hungry, it is very difficult to lock into someone that is standing near a dead tank
- Low clouds/Rain/Storm weather (which these times seems almost 2/3 of all matches) makes the SU34 nearly unusable, and forced into a very limited ATGM/bomb run
- SU34 is a brick, if there is an enemy plane you will most of the time die while looking at targets after a few seconds (no thermals, longer time to find targets). It carries 2 R77 and 2 R73, but what is that worth if there is an Eurofighter in space launching AIM120B as soon as you spawn, or a F16 hugging the ground after launching it’s payload WITH THERMALS to find enemies?
- If by some miracle you spawn early and scores some frags, the chances of dying on Airfield are extremely high if there is no other friendly plane up, afterall… high tier ground RB airports are basically helipads, absolutely no defense if someone goes to you while you are reloading/taking off.
- No alerts for Heat seaking missiles, so LAVS, Ozelot, Type 81 (and other SPAAs), helicopters, smokeless AIM9M carriers can easily get an SU34 that is busy looking for targets with NO THERMALS… and specially after the launch when you are turning back to airfield, which happens when you are already quite close to the airfield
There are very specific circunstances where SU34 will score 5+ kills in a single bombing run, and in these circuntances a F16/F15 would do just as well as the SU34.
Most of the times i go specifically after enemies alone (flankers and spawn killers) because they won’t have a dead husk nearby them, or SAMs chilling in their spawn, because shooting at an enemy in a contested area is quite the risk, the KH38 may go to a dead husk… to an ally as often happens when the enemy gets behind cover, or the enemy will simply die before it arrives.
Sorry bad english :)
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That just causes more problems and solves none.
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Happen to every IR AGM
Ever fly Tornado IDS or GR4 before to say it SU-34 is flying brick?
And who else does? Apart from newly gen4.5 fighter?
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I have great idea, how to forget about su34. Like it happened with su25sm3. We just need another aircraft, with 8 kh38mt.
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4 minutes is generous, I have had heli comes up at 2 minute mark launching missiles from helipad to spawn. Some people still think CAS isn’t a problem, makes me sick to the stomach.
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Is it?
isnt the lock range of the AGM-65B 6KM?
also you say pantsir can be easily evaded (laughs at dying the moment i spawn in)
also wasnt there a method people used to make the SU-34 have thermal’s with the addition of putting 1 missile?
Evaded? No. Outplayed? Yes Gnss bombs is your best friend agains S1. But im doing that with laser gbu or cannon.
Now they get EFT so that’s a moot point.
EFTs and Rafale, so that’s 40% of the countries in the game.
yeah, if i say they also got SU-27SM so it also a moot point hah?
not an excuse
27SM doesn’t carry the same amount (or even more) A2G ordnance than Su-34 though.
It is an excuse as almost half the nations have it.