The Su-30SM should not have received the Kh-38MT

Nope. At now only soviets are OP, because have the best SPAA.

What does propaganda have to do with it when it is obvious that the Soviets is the only nation that has received only buffs in CAS since the Su-25SM3?

AHAHHAHAHAHAH

There is no skill there. The players are not much smarter than the US mainers, but they`re have the strongest CAS and SPAA.

Give any nation a 20km SPAA at the same time take it away from others, and then add a CAS with 2.0M missiles with 15km attack range - this nation will be the best, regardless of skill of players.

And now @TrudeBarkhorn508 is claiming that people can’t get a 1:1 frag to launch ratio with KH-38s, Hammers, AGM-65s, etc yet there’s video evidence on YouTube for all that.
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Here are two screenshots from probably a single match.

IR AGMs are the thing that’s OP in general right now.
Kh-38s get more attention cause of Soviet addicts.

But yeah, keep claiming that calling the Kh-38 OP is trolling, all your post is doing is defending the Kh-38 from criticism when you do that.

Oh, and your posts calling people trolls for saying SPAA is weak is further proof…

SPAA is weak no matter what you accuse people of.
IR AGMs [which includes Kh-38] are OP no matter what you say.

I have top CAS for every tech tree, played it in 7, and retired from CAS cause I nuke hunt now instead, and CAS doesn’t earn enough spawn points for nukes.

@KYoo accusing all 10 tech trees of being Soviets is funny.
Typhoon, F-15E, F-16C, Rafale, Mirage 2000 RMV, etc aren’t Soviet.

CAS spawns reduce win rates, not increase them BTW. Which tells me you’re new to the game.

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OH WOW 2 Screenshots.

Nice troll. Its not work on me.

Ha ha

U retired becose dont made notning on CAS. I look ur stat dude.
31 death and only 5 kills on 15E. Ur awesome AGM is op ur right.

I think i leave this discussion with this.

All SPAA its overpowered things. Becose venicle for 80 point shouldn’t kill venicle for 900 point.

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@TrudeBarkhorn508
I never used F-15E in ground RB, I used F-14B and F-16C. The F-15E was released after I made my 11.7 lineup for spading, which is currently using an F-111F as CAS, with the same loadout. So I still have an unkillable CAS option if I ever want to be a worse team mate than spawning 3 more Abrams.
F-16C is what got me my 20km achievement.
I’ve also used Tornado, both Mirage 2000s, Harrier GR7, Gripen C, and so forth.

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Under what conditions were the frags made? If there was no SPAA at all, any CAS could make a bunch of frags.

The screenshot is not an indicator of anything at all.

They play in ±equal conditions because their SPAA ranges are 10-12km.

@KYoo
My team had two SPAA, I didn’t screenshot the leaderboard cause I was just chuckling at finding CAS for the first time in like 10 matches that day.
Usually the enemy team would spawn no CAS to have better spawn point management and win matches.

I have no posts on the forum accusing people of being Russian mains, let alone @ARK_BOI whom I get many of my takes from.
ARK is a wonderful source of good takes that I endorse and agree with.

It’s funny tho to see people arguing that CAS isn’t OP and that SPAA is powerful.

One random match is not an indicator.

@KYoo
Cross analysis, which I have training for, is the primary indicator.
Matches aren’t a relevant metric for CAS. Most good players don’t consistently spawn CAS, and of the extreme few that do, they primarily play the middle BRs where CAS is balanced.

Ground frags on stat cards also include air RB, so the statcard can’t be used anyway.

So you didn’t training well.

Every match is unique. If you brought random screenshots - congratulations, they don’t mean anything.

He just little umm i cant say this word.
5 launch - 4 kills. And die vs Typhoon. Becose airfield SPAA made nothing.

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This only works for AAs as other vehicles are pretty much blind to top tier CAS threats, due to really good range and the fact IR ordnance doesn’t give out any warning.

Most of the time those missiles will be defeated by sheer luck, without any intention or skill behind it.

Su-34 has pretty poor performance against other 12.7s, it just looks “good” because it shares the BR with a plane (SM3) that should honestly be at 12.0 by now.

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Hello, just a friendly reminder to respect each other, and take personal quarrels to DMs.

Keep in mind, this is the DEV server, and things are subject to change.

Thanks.

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Riiight, it totally isn’t because of how its speed completely outclasses all other AGMs in the game and can be used outside of all SPAA’s range to great effect. No, of course not…

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Both things I’ve been doing with AGM-65s since 2022.
There’s a reason I have no Pantsir deaths when using CAS.

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You are missing the bigger picture here. All IR agms rely on direct LOS for it to track.

If an IR agm (without IOG) looses LOS, it will stop tracking, and slowly fall out of the sky. This greatly reduces the chance of the agm reacquiring lock

If an IR agm (with IOG) looses LOS, it will stop tracking however it will go to it’s estimated known position. Not only it will hit it’s estimated position, it has the greatest chance of reacquiring lock.

Now why is this important? This really comes into affect when a target temporary loses LOS. So if a target is moving through a forest, hiding behind smoke, or hiding behind a building for a couple of seconds, IR agms (with IOG) has the greatest chance of hitting the target.


I think you’re missing the point here. By poor platform, he probably means subsonic. yeah sure it’s not going to win against a euro fighter in a 1v1 but that’s not what it was designed to do. What the SU34 can do over the SM3 is that it can fly much higher and maneuver much better against SAMs.

The SU30 does the same thing as the SU34 but better. Not only that, it can carry a TGP which works really well with the KH38ML (laser variant). It is quite literally a better SU34 because it can be used in all environments.

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We all know IOG is a benefit, but I was just stating that you won’t really see CAS targeting you, so “seeing something, popping smoke and being safe” is not the average gameplay.

Being a subsonic jet at 12.7 in GRB isn’t just poor, it’s terribad.
Su-34 not being designed to do something doesn’t mean anything as it’s forced to do just that in order to survive. It will lose the fight to other popular 12.7s which makes it pretty poor aircraft in my eyes.

It has some defensive capabilities but that’s nothing to show off, meanwhile SM3 is basically a RP pinata.

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plus you can spawn SU34 after you dead on SU30SM with the SP cost does not conflict
so 12 KH38 or 11 if you carry TGP, from a single player
how much CAS is enough?

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I should’ve clarified. what I was trying to point out is the common cases where agms (without IOG) will lose LOS resulting in them missing the target.

Because of how long Mavericks take to reach the target, anything could happen.


True but the KH38 makes it extremely deadly. If it got reduced in BR, then it would it would be even more of a menace in a down tier.

If the SM3 got it’s KH38 removed and was replaced with the IR variant of the KH29, then I would see it going down in BR.


The issue comes with balance. Really good fighters such as the Euro fighter, F-16, etc comes at the cost of carrying mediocre agms and vise versa