then where is 12 came from i wonder?
tbh, I have no idea, maybe people are combining the fact that you can spawn with the su30sm and after you die you can just get the su34 with more 6 kh38s? idk
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Okay i guess i know where it came from it because different type of aircraft separates so 6kill SU34 got destroyed and spawn other to get other 6kill
Don’t you get SP when you kill an opponent with the KH-38MT? The SP of an attack aircraft and a fighter does not conflict.
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yup, but it almost seems like the su30sm could carry 12 kh38s lol, so I felt the need to correct that
(there are also people saying that the su30sm can carry 14 fox 3, it can’t, the maximum is 12 r77-1 + 2 r73)
CAS of only one nation with SPAA, that can annihilate any another CAS.
Will other nations get the pantsir? Either the nation has a weak CAS but strong SPAA, or vice versa. There is no other option.
Is the damage inflicted by the IR seeker?
Since the Soviets now have a CAS superior to any other nation, it would be wise to increase the cost of the Kh-38 to 1200-1500 ov.
Pantsir is itself not strong enough to deal with CAS anywhere close to consistently.
All 10 tech trees need 18km CAS BETTER than Pantsir, not as good, better.
Soviets currently don’t have CAS superior to that of all other tech trees [on-par is not superior], and that cost poposal is clearly just your post praising Russia as the best in the world when it’s not.
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Other SPAA are even weaker.
Glad you agree with me.
Nope. CAS is OP only if u play on USSR.
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Seriously?
Spoiler, Russian CAS is the most OP of the game. That’s why you have 62% winrate on Russia and 47% on USA.
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Yet another post praising the Soviets instead of accepting reality that SPAA is useless against all CAS right now.
Here’s some math BTW:
2nd spawn tank is 200SP. If you’re a particularly good player you’ll get 3 frags.
That’s 33.4 SP per frag in the first spawn, 66.7 in the 2nd, and in the 3rd it costs 300 or 400.
A CAS with 6 IR AGMs costs 950 SP, and if you’re particularly good you’ll get 6 frags before a plane shoots you down. That’s 158.4 SP per frag.
CAS IS OP for all tech trees, that fact doesn’t change no matter what propaganda about the Soviets are in your mind or posts.
And despite that, tanks cost less per frag and are more effective despite not being OP.
@KYoo
“Russian CAS is OP, that’s why their players are more skilled than everyone else according to anecdotes.”
No, win-rate AKA team skill, has nothing to do with vehicles being more powerful or not.
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Nope. At now only soviets are OP, because have the best SPAA.
What does propaganda have to do with it when it is obvious that the Soviets is the only nation that has received only buffs in CAS since the Su-25SM3?
AHAHHAHAHAHAH
There is no skill there. The players are not much smarter than the US mainers, but they`re have the strongest CAS and SPAA.
Give any nation a 20km SPAA at the same time take it away from others, and then add a CAS with 2.0M missiles with 15km attack range - this nation will be the best, regardless of skill of players.
And now @TrudeBarkhorn508 is claiming that people can’t get a 1:1 frag to launch ratio with KH-38s, Hammers, AGM-65s, etc yet there’s video evidence on YouTube for all that.
Here are two screenshots from probably a single match.
IR AGMs are the thing that’s OP in general right now.
Kh-38s get more attention cause of Soviet addicts.
But yeah, keep claiming that calling the Kh-38 OP is trolling, all your post is doing is defending the Kh-38 from criticism when you do that.
Oh, and your posts calling people trolls for saying SPAA is weak is further proof…
SPAA is weak no matter what you accuse people of.
IR AGMs [which includes Kh-38] are OP no matter what you say.
I have top CAS for every tech tree, played it in 7, and retired from CAS cause I nuke hunt now instead, and CAS doesn’t earn enough spawn points for nukes.
@KYoo accusing all 10 tech trees of being Soviets is funny.
Typhoon, F-15E, F-16C, Rafale, Mirage 2000 RMV, etc aren’t Soviet.
CAS spawns reduce win rates, not increase them BTW. Which tells me you’re new to the game.
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OH WOW 2 Screenshots.
Nice troll. Its not work on me.
Ha ha
U retired becose dont made notning on CAS. I look ur stat dude.
31 death and only 5 kills on 15E. Ur awesome AGM is op ur right.
I think i leave this discussion with this.
All SPAA its overpowered things. Becose venicle for 80 point shouldn’t kill venicle for 900 point.
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@TrudeBarkhorn508
I never used F-15E in ground RB, I used F-14B and F-16C. The F-15E was released after I made my 11.7 lineup for spading, which is currently using an F-111F as CAS, with the same loadout. So I still have an unkillable CAS option if I ever want to be a worse team mate than spawning 3 more Abrams.
F-16C is what got me my 20km achievement.
I’ve also used Tornado, both Mirage 2000s, Harrier GR7, Gripen C, and so forth.
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Under what conditions were the frags made? If there was no SPAA at all, any CAS could make a bunch of frags.
The screenshot is not an indicator of anything at all.
They play in ±equal conditions because their SPAA ranges are 10-12km.
@KYoo
My team had two SPAA, I didn’t screenshot the leaderboard cause I was just chuckling at finding CAS for the first time in like 10 matches that day.
Usually the enemy team would spawn no CAS to have better spawn point management and win matches.
I have no posts on the forum accusing people of being Russian mains, let alone @ARK_BOI whom I get many of my takes from.
ARK is a wonderful source of good takes that I endorse and agree with.
It’s funny tho to see people arguing that CAS isn’t OP and that SPAA is powerful.