that a dont nerf my premium argument ? yeah… read first
are you serious
Yes. Do you think the Su-30MK is at the same level as the J-11B for example?
Its too OP for 13.3 but too weak for 13.7. Compression as usual.
j11b is 14.0 material but its gimped by the missiles…the disadvantages from the su30mk2 and the su27sm are so minimal namely weight and engine power…thats it…it gets all the benefits and drawbacks of the sm except the 2 extra missiles…and comparing the mk2 to the j11b just goes to show how… your argument is…it will be perfectly fine at 13.7 as the f16am for the dutch is forced to be
Don’t you just love it when forums ultimately just get drawn into a US Vs RU debate while every other nations just suffers.
13.3 for this plane is too low, and before people get the knickers in a twist can we atleast look at the planes that are forced to fight these things from other nations.
The UK has a few jets that face this thing which really shouldn’t be seeing them at all.
Tornado GR4 ( 12.3 ) with 2 IR missles and a really weak airframe.
Harrier GR7 ( 12.3 ) Subsonic, bad flight performance with 4 IR missiles
F/A-18A ( 12.3 ) Decent flight performance but weak engines, 4 SARH missles and 2 IR’s
All 3 of these face a plane that carries upto 6 ARH missiles + 4 IR missiles.
In GRB 2 are 12.0 and 1 is 12.3, the SU-30 has more ground ordinence, way better A2G missiles on a vastly superior platform.
So yea this is basically RU bias at its finest. You’d have to be blind or never played this game to think its anything but.
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The J-11B isn’t quite 14.0 material, even before the PL-12 issues appeared.
At 14.0 you have the M2K with micas and the F-15E/I with its incredible speed and acceleration and 8 ARH loadout. Those represent the 14.0 standard. The F-18’s feel overtiered to me but with that quantity of ARH missiles they can’t really go lower with the current BR compression.
J-11B is among the strongest 13.7, but there are also more 13.7 that are just as good in different ways, like the F-15J(M) and F-2A.
The J-11A was 13.7, it was the worst 13.7 and no one played it. Went down to 13.3 with the premium su-30s which suddently made them easily the best 13.3 jets, then with the flankers FM buff it took them even further.
This just shows how compressed BRs are and we should press gaijin to do something about it instead of crying to make new OP jets or pointless overtiered ones by just moving 1 step up or down.
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it can compete with 13.7 better than 13.3s can compete with it
you ahve no idea what youre talking about
positioned precisely to kick the hell out of premium hornets every match lol. obligatory for a RU/CN prem tbh
c-5 shouldnt be able to cap a vehicle to 14.0…i think that is insane…all 14.0 hornets kinda need to go to 13.7 atleast in sim
fastest flanker at high alt
some people play for fun because this game isn’t a hyper realistic simulator if that’s what you want then uninstall this game
some people here aren’t worth responding to as brick walls don’t say much:)
use your “OP” HMD when a Aim120 is launched at you next time see how that works out for you :)
complaing about su30 premiums? just notch broh! /S
you do realize that the AIM-120 is among the worst Fox-3s in the game?
particularly in the 13.3-13.7 bracket where aircraft aren’t as powerful in the radar or speed department as at top tier, meaning they can’t make use of higher range missiles so well
whatever you must tell yourself:)
it’s an objective fact
you’d know this if you didn’t suck at the game
if aim120 is so bad then why are you always using it if aim120 sucks then thats your skill issue
because the only other option for AIM-120 carriers (if they have other options) is a sparrow…
so your able to get kills in f16 varient thats “doodoo” and use f15s with aim120s at top teir air maybe you just like “doodoo” huh lol