And im never denying that part, im just saying Sukhoi-27 wasnt developed to counter F-15 originally cause both breau didnt have any idea what was f-15 going to be like until the first flight.
Original point was to develop next gen fighter to counter upcoming FX program.
Well, you finally get it.
Bruh…
Su-27 is a product from a program when the Soviet knew about the program that gave birth to the F-15 (Why they bother to know about F-15 since they just know that there will be something new and make a huge change to Air combat).
It the same case with AIM-54/AIM-120 on F-14 when they started the program for R-33/37
F4F ICE and Tornado F.3 after seeing this topic “LMAO”
i go F-16C with new ACM PD
waiting for Sukhoi Su-30.
Wrong topic buddzo
Although the Su-27SM in the game presents large speed losses in simple maneuvers that can still break its wings, it is still capable of eliminating targets efficiently in BR 13.0
If you are good with U.S top tier you are good with USSR top tier altough some buffs would not be bad
R-77 and IRST buff would be welcomed.
even an ECM POD. how about that?
BANANA
I hope Russian top tier isnt left in this state for the next 3 months with r-77 losing speed and su27/mig29 being bricks and horrible at bvr
Its FM performs according to the documentation available, again, the Russians leaned heavily on the idea of a super maneuverable airframe, which the Su-27 is, until you run out of energy. The USA considered energy maneuverability to be of far greater importance, and that is reflected in both the F-15, 16.
His FM has nothing to do with reality at all
Yikes well this explains literally everything, and why the F15A is still 12.3br as well as why many US planes are undertiered.
The amazing part is how U.S. has high win rates from 4.7br-8.0br, yet still somehow has undertiered planes.
It’s quite safe to say that the majority of U.S. air players are literally as bad if not worse than German tankers.
Facts.
Well, something we are all over looking, is that it is NOT COMPETITIVE. Who cares about the history, we are playing a game here. They just pulled out an UPGRADED F-15C, not a early model F-15C, and threw that into the mix. They just need to add vehicles that are somewhat balanced with each other. F-15C is better in every way to the Su-27SM. The only gimmick the Su had was the HMD, and now the 15C has it, with TWICE the range. There just is no reason to play the Su-27SM, compared to everything else at top tier. It’s just not fun.
funny how i didn’t see this energy from ppl like you when the MiG-23MLD was absolutely stomping everything