M829A2 can’t do the same. A2 doesn’t lolpen K5 further 50m, I tested it
Before this time, A3 was successfully slicing through K5 like through butter
Dude u just gotta accept ur wrong on this and create ur own forum protesting hull the improvement for the sepv3 if you dislike it that much lmao.
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An aced crew to be precise. Gaijin literally takes the best possible version of the vehicles into account when making balance decisions which obviously makes sense since we dont have dynamic BRs for vehicles.
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Yet this increased stock vehicles performance
Unlike you claiming they don’t care about stock performance. And I can believe Gaijin being so tough towards buffing M1 hull is part of this, because changes people want gonna affect half stocked vehicles and they just don’t wanna touch it
They by fact do not account for stock performance for BR lol. Idk what ur trying to argue lmao
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How am I wrong?
One says Abrams 11.7 can’t pen Russian 12.7, I prove it wrong
One says A3 doesn’t work against K5, I prove it wrong
Another says they don’t care about stock vehicles performance, I literally post list of changes that aim to increase stock vehicles performance. And these only I REMEMBER
And basically all of you fail to approve logic why one 11.7 supposed to pen 12.7 LFP and others don’t
Stock performance is part of whole vehicle performance in the end.
If one’s vehicle stock performance is more miserable than others is going to reflected in stats anyway
All the other guy said was that it isn’t accounted for in balancing as you were complaining about 3bm42 not being able to lolpen any Abram’s in the game. (It can). You might want to work on your reading comprehension. And no, I saw that were saying that an Abrams can get an 11.3 Russian tank, like so what? They cannot even face each other. I think ur completely ignoring a tank like the strv 122b and the leopard 2a7v, that have better armour and don’t weigh 70+ tonnes.
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I’m done arguing with you lol, but they literally do not, the stock performance is not accounted in any way for vehicle balancing, because otherwise they would have lower bars for stock and non stock tanks.
Now quote me where exactly I did write this? That 3BM42 cannot lolpen abrams in game?
Can you read? I said u were complaining the improved hull means 3bm42 can no longer lolpen it
No you clearly write
Which abrams in game 3BM42 is not being able to pen? Which abrams in game and where I did write this
I was saying you were complaining about the new hull lol, mb if I didn’t word it clearly enough.
Like a hot knife through butter, or so iv been told…
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You still haven’t responded with how the SEPv3 with considerably worse mobility is somehow not a downgrade to the SEPv1, and thus by extension a downgrade to the 2A7.
Seeing as you yourself admit here that mobility is one of the aspects that make the Abrams so strong.
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Like I said in one of another topics, it has something to do with test drive. Because in hit analysis it shows pen and in zenti’s video shows pen
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Yeah the A3 barely works against k5, because when u shoot at the same spot again the dart goes through. Same as a2. So literally 1 step forward 1 step backward
Now I just understand that your good players not that good, at least as mine
Abrams vs Leopard
Firepower
5 sec vs 6 sec. + Leo has small first stage resulting in even longer reload if Leo wants to have better survivability when abrams can carry up to 30 shells and all being 5 sec. reload. For mediocre player is nothingburger but good player who plays aggressive can run out out first stage and have no ammo or even longer reload. I myself experienced this and started to carry 21 shells instead 16.
Example in terms of reload
There is CC complains about Leo running out first stage while in Abrams he would keep shooting and shooting
Mobility
Abrams overall has better mobility but sometimes this mobility can be stretched even further with abrams having Browning and Leo doesn’t. Because big chunk of maps filled with garbage resulting in even bigger slow down for Leo as its mg cannot destroy obstacles while abrams’ browning can
Machine guns
Abrams 1-2 brownings behind destroying slowing you down obstacles can destroy tracks resulting in clutches when for same Leo it would be insta lose
Example
Destroying UE-1 tracks while our gun is broken
After repair he uses ESS(which Leo also doesn’t have) to trick UE-1 and kill it
Result: winning hopeless situation where Leo wouldn’t never make it
And there’s like several alike abrams capable of doing all of that vs ONE Leo having better hull protection
Again for bad-mid player(like forum ones)is talks nothing as they fully not aware of abrams capabilities and never can realize them in battles. Only good players can show Abrams strength over Leo
Upd: I really hope this post not getting deleted. I put some effort in making it, you know. I was just asked
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So,I did a bit of digging regarding the weight differences of various M1 versions…
According to GDLS brochures and a 2025 Army Report (SEPv2 & v3), the weights are as follows
(metric figures, converted from short ton figures);
M1 Abrams (105mm M68E1)
54431,1kg
M1A1 (120mm M256)
55000kg
M1A2 (“”)
63085,63kg
No figures for M1A2 SEP atm.
M1A2 SEPv2 (“”)
64319,4kg
M1A2 SEPv3 (“”)
67086,3kg
I hate to be that guy, but the SEPv3 only has a 22.7 HP/ton without mounting TUSK II. So I’m asking you again, what mobility advantage does the SEPv3 have over the 2A7V?
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