The situation plaguing 11.3 bracket

Anyone whos played in the 11.3 bracket has probably noticed the distinct lack of winning chance whenever Italy is on a team.
The sales for the F-104s have ruined all fun in that bracket, the botting of players bringing nothing but 2 napalm and then blitzing to a base then back, no gun nor missiles on board.

A brand new level of uslesslly ruining win rates at the hand of a “skillfull” tt.

If you want proof, i atempted to grind out the german F4F and got a positive kd but a 30% win rate over 80 games, something like that shouldnt be possible for any bracket.

I just want all this to be said so hopefully Gaijin can either fix the botting problem or change how ARB works with these usless beings we get stuck with

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It won’t happen, mate. This game is too grindy, and majority of the players at the “Premium BRs” as I call it are there for one thing: bombing until they get what they want. The F-104 is the most useless jet in the entire game, with the only thing it is good at is flying real fast. Two napalm on the fastest thing alive is a Godsend since now all you have to do is fly there, bomb, and fly back.
Want it to stop? Don’t play those BRs expecting teamwork. Gaijin will not change anything.

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All i got is hope that they might just make bases drain tickets again. I still aint rushing bases unless its EC but it would benefit those teams that get stuck with tons of Tornados, 104s, amd all those other bombers.
Tornado and stuff is still preferable to the 104 cause atleast theyre forced to carry guns to maybe hit a ground target or headon something

Thats just TAF curse, one of the weakest 11.3 jets, made premium, with other option being subsonic attacker.

It should get at least little better with Sniper, assuming most people migrate to it.

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F-104S is an awful aircraft that has its BR artificially higher than it should be because people bomb in it.

But it is possible, because for the most part, your team’s skill has a huge effect on your winrates.


I’m about 5 times as effective as the average player in air combat, but a measly 38% winrate in my F9F-8 due to unskilled allies, and maybe partly because the airframe is pretty weak.

Please no! Games should not be ending before one team is defeated. Timer should be extended too…

The F-104S/TAF is terribly overtiered and a poor aircraft in general. The IR missiles it has access to are middlin’ - If it brings Sparrows it only gets 2 of them in exchange for losing the 20mm Vulcan and the radar is absolutely terrible along with the Sparrows. It’s countermeasure count is also low for the BR range. It’s a miserable aircraft to play and is absolutely non-competitive so naturally 9 out of 10 times people run it they are Zombing bases to at least get something out of the match before they are shot down by aircraft they really couldn’t do anything against in a straight up fight.

Even though I bought it when it was on sale way back I still regret spending the $35 USD I spent on it because it’s so terrible I didn’t even care to suffer through it just to unlock most of Italy’s TT.

Im not saying that they should chunk tickets, or that they shouldnt increase total tickets with them, but these bots need to be helping win or should just get banned.

Its the same aa bringing a prop to top tier but no one is laughing.

Also I dont think the plane is good for the br, but it needs to move away in some direction

Ik its bad, I understand that it loses radar for gun and 9ps being mediocre for 11.3, but idc, near no one i see is playing a designated fighter/interceptor as its meant to be, and its worse than the mig napalm, is that they arent running anything qith the bombs.
Theyd rather prolong the grind by getting a base and losing the match because their yeam is down however many people are playing the 104 and any bombers who dont realise they arent getting a base.

“how dare someone play differently from me! They should be banned for not being like me!”

They should be banned for botting, idk how you just skip past reading parts

Well maybe if Gaijin wasn’t completely inept when it comes to BR placement, matchmaking by BR spread, map design, obj placement and so on people would be more inclined to play aircraft more to their primary function instead of their secondary function.

Also, it isn’t prolonging their grind. If anything, by zombing to a base and then dying they move onto the next match faster than if they had stayed in the first match, thus maximizing their personal RP gain.

Is it detrimental to the team they’re on? Sure.
Is it against ToS? Nope.

You may not like it, and I may not like it, but it is what it is. So long as the BR compression exists with the terrible maps and bad Objective placement these playstyles will continue. Gaijin also won’t do anything since this is exactly what they want, as detrimental to game health as it is.

And there is a lot that they have done over the years that is detrimental to the health of the game, let alone the playerbase.

Also, it isn’t botting unless they’re using a script program to play the game for them.

Someone just using a 1 note playstyle isn’t botting, nor should they be banned for a 1 note playstyle even if it’s lame.

The F-104S TAF went from hilariously OP at 11.0 to average at 11.3.
And to players, average means bomb with it.

It was hilarious how easy it was to get 4 frag matches with the 11.0 F-104S TAF due to the presence it had as an F-16A that can’t dogfight and 9Js instead of 9Ls.