The second-generation jet fighters with fox3 should get lower BR

bro the UK has the JAS39C, where is your problem

I didn’t say I had a problem with the JAS39C, and as a consequence I’m not sure you understood what I said correctly - you do, on the F-4F, have active radar missiles, and so it is possible to make it work. It’s not like we’ve thrown you in with just AIM-9Js.

My point is more while “yes, it sucks that Germany has a Phantom, the disparity is not as bad as it could be” - you have radar missiles, you have a reasonable radar, you have passable agility and a workable countermeasure count.

As I said earlier, there is not much that can be done, as Germany does not have another indigenous platform until the Eurofighter, and can only really call on an F/A-18 from the Swiss or Canada.

I’m more bothered about the fact that people are choosing to make a massive deal out of Germany only having a Phantom, when there’s been far more egregious examples of powercreep or neglected trees (Italian Tree before Apex Predators comes to mind, Sweden before the Gripen, etc etc)
Yes it’s not ideal to have only a Phantom, no, it is not unredeemable, and no, there is not a whole lot anyone can do about it. It could be much worse, you could be asked to fight a F-14 with a Phantom… or an F-104.

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if gaijin make pl8b for j8f instead of pl8,it seems like there is no problem in 12.3. But there is no pl8b in the game.

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Bro , As long as PL-12 is implemented in J-8F, PL-8 in the inner pylon is destined to be deleted.In fact, PL-8B alone is not sufficient.The inner PL-5 dedicated pylon requires a PL-5E or larger missile.

Something can be an issue whilst other things are also an issue.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m just surprised at the order of magnitudes of complaining in comparison to when various other trees were left with dead/unviable platforms and no one batted an eyelid.

Though the fact the KWS only gets 9L is definitely a traversty

Because those various other trees being dead is like your average Tuesday.

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The fact is Gaijin does not want to skip the grind nor power creep to the Eurofighter for now we must wait until the next major update.

Ridiculous Luftwaffe荒谬的德国荒谬的

i think best way to make the f4f ice a bit better is giving it the 9L/i aim9l with irccm and we already got missiles with irccm so it shouldnt be hard to copy paste some codes and people wouldnt complain either

The old body with a high-level missile, going to fight with the GEN4 new plane, only 0.3 lower, 120A+9L, this is too humorous, gaijin, what do you think? Do you guys play games Gaijin?

This can be easily fixed with AIM-9Li and PL-8B.

I don’t know if you have done any research, but you should recheck your claims cause F-4 is a 3rd Generation, F-100 is 2nd Generation & F-86 is 1st Generation.