The Python 3 on the F15I is missing

Even if not removing 9L (Because i know snail likes to make useless modifications to inflate grind), even just replacing 9L with P3 as a mod would be fine. You are never going to use either again once you get 9M’s, so may as well make it a domestic thing than an export thing.

In the future, yes. But i do not think it needs Python 4 right now.

It’d be the best IR missile ingame, and given F-15I is arguably the best ASF ingame already, it really doesn’t need that buff at this moment in time, and it’d be sad to see P4 get nerfed just to shoehorn it in now. I don’t have faith in the snail to De-nerf it when the meta allows, like they did with Magics.

We 100% need to see it get domestic A2G munitions sooner rather than later though.

Is it really that bad? I absolutely love them on the F-5E and the Kfir C.2. They ignore flares often enough, and one even got me today (not afterburning).

It seems like a trade off of range, speed, max Gs, vs IRCCM when compared to the 9M. Of course, 9M has the best IRCCM in the game, so maybe a bad trade off haha.

It really is just the lack of IRCCM i think.

I had a really good time using Netz w/ P3 in it’s heyday, but even then, they always felt very flare hungry to me. It’s an amazing missile for taking out oblivious / distracted people, but far too easy to counter for people who see it coming. Everyone has CM in abundance at top tier now too.

I found it was very common for people to accidentally / unintenionally ‘flare’ it, simply by firing off their own missile at someone lol. P3 loves to go after freshly launched missiles.

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Something I have noticed, many missiles that are strong against flares on paper (Python, R-73, 9L) will LOVE to go for random “accidental” flares, or even other missiles, but strangely can be very hard to flare off on purpose… WT is truly mysterious sometimes.

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Thunderwar do be whacky like that lol.

Kinematically, i much prefer P3 to 9L/9M, and i think it it’s flatly superior to 9L. But 9M is just in a different league in terms of situations where its basically unavoidable. I’d always choose 9M over P3 if given the choice.

P4 on the other hand… That will be nuts. I’m genuinely scared for the overall gameplay health when missiles like P4/P5 come. People are really going to struggle to adapt to a meta where IR missiles basically evolve into an ‘i win’ button lol.

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9M is kinda mind blowing. Even the smokeless motor makes a way bigger difference than I thought it would. Many just don’t react at all. The ONLY time it has ever struggled was against an Su-39 IRCM. Genuinely made 4 missiles fail, I couldn’t believe it. In all other scenarios, it has been a basically guaranteed kill.

I really really do not think we can have the next gen of IR missiles, unless we get br 16.0 lol. Even now they are only kept in check due to having some relative downside. Usually only 2, maybe 4 Magic 2s, 9M having relatively shorter range and less pull. Python 4, IRIS-T, etc. are gonna be wild.

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Even then, and even with the most ultra modern of aircraft, they are going to be extremely unfun to play against lol.

Everyone hates AMRAAM meta, but at least, even if with some difficulty, you can notch and multipath those. Damn near nothing you can do when you’ve got the likes of P5 / 9X / ASRAAM / IRIS-T screaming towards you lol.

If top tier isn’t a point and click adventure game already, it certainly will be then. I just hope by this point, 16v16 is long gone. It will be legit unplayable with that many hyper advanced missiles in the air. Gonna need like 5v5 or something.

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I miss my Python-3s…AIM-9Ms really just don’t do it for me

At the end of the day though it is a matter of preference and given it is able to carry them in real life it should be present as an option in the game.

modification research cost is tied to the level and number present. It’s actually easier to get individual modifications when you have more, and vice versa. The total cost to spade remains the same.

The Aim-9L’s should definitely be replaced by Python-3 IMO.

Who knows though. In the next few updates, we may end up seeing Python-4 and be using that on Ra’am instead.

Sadly i lm pretty sure the f15i never used them

Well make a bug report with a source

Just unlocked that thing by playing Ayit, and seeing the abomination of stock AIM-9L makes me not even want to waste the SL on it. Though, not like Python 3 would be worlds better. Least the fat boy F-16D chucked in a coupla AIM-9M.

I stock grinded it in the event and i tell u its not that bad u have 2 120 and 2 aim9m and u can unlock the aim7 pretty fast
Hell its top 3 planes maybe even the best

It’s capable of using them, that’s all that matters.

I might, but I’m busy as of late.

Can u send it here?

Why do you call it fat boy? It doesn’t deserve it the poor thing. Actually it is lighter by a whopping 13kg than the F-16C blk50. Now I wonder if gaijin counts pilot weights.

She just looks chonky

But yeah, I was wrong about the F-15I, it actually does come with AIM-9M stock - just had to make a preset and select them. Existing stock presets only had AIM-9L.