The Pheonix missile should fall for chaff and flare instead of having 100% success rate

Doesn’t prove much except that they can track through mountains. Just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t prove that it never happens.

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So you’d rather fly straight into the Phoenix?

Better than doing nothing.

  1. Its the only video/proof of this happening

  2. Its a MONTH old.

  3. If they can track through mountains, why isnt there a bug report on it?

im telling you, just because its happened once, doesnt mean it happens.

final question, has it happened to you?

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Don’t worry, they have already stretched the battle rating and weakened the base’s revenue. The next step will be to release a new gift package fighter. If the F14 is too strong in monetization, they will take action to weaken it.LOL

I said they WERE (past tense) tracking through mountains and that I had not seen a fix for it, there may have been and I just missed it.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1GXFk9rDEbUf
Also I have seen several post about it on the forums and they all just result in the player mentioning it being told their stupid and it doesn’t happen.

Yes, in fact I have had it happen a few times, I now stay behind cover until my RWR fully shuts off

F-14s never plagued the game.
F-14s were good at fragging new players, and that’s it.

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F-14 plagued the game on release (7 months)

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dont you think its a coincidence that the only cases we’ve seen have been from a month ago?

then i guess they tracked through mountains

Again:

If the OP said it happed to him and its proven that it WAS happening, and there has been no fix yet, I inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt that it did happen to him

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Yet I died to so little of them they were never on my radar as a vehicle to be threatened by let alone desire to meme on others.
I was too busy memeing on others using EJ, F-4 FG1, and EJ Kai. EJ Kai being the superior aircraft to use over F-14A by far.
Only F-14B and the Art Deco camo for F-14A would peak my interest for getting the F-14A.

An F-4J that can dogfight was never something that interested me when I had EJ Kai the entire time.

The only advantage the EJK had is a better radar. It didn’t even have the agile eagle upgrade.

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Which is all the advantage you need.
War Thunder stopped having dogfight meta when F-4E was introduced.
It’s been boom and zoom ever since, with BVR mixed in more often than dogfights.

The dogfight meta is so old I wasn’t around at top BRs when it was around thus only ever experienced the boom & zoom and BVR meta that’s been happening for the last 5 years.

Nah. Remember F-5E? Then the MiG-23MLD? And then when the F-14A was introduced it was both a dogfighter and a missile bus.

Also furballs were a lot more pronounced back then because of smaller maps.

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F-5E? You mean the interceptor, which is the primary meta playstyle of that vehicle… cause it can cut off many aircraft that head toward it.
Mig-23MLD was boom and zoom as well.

F-5E only does well cause people try to dogfight in the boom & zoom meta.

Did you even play during that time? Either that or you don’t remember F-5E vs MiG-23M era.

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@Axzuel More than you.
I even got the F-5E.
Mig-23M was useless outside of boom and zoom, the weakest addition to War Thunder by far.
F-4F ICE is a significantly stronger addition.
Not sure why Gaijin thought Mig-23M was a good idea.
It should’ve been R-60s and R-23Rs only, and made a lower BR and it’d be decent.

Until they gave it R-60Ms a month later

I literally have more games played in the F-5E than you.

The meta was dogfighting. The F-5E was really good at it. Remember this was when non PD radar couldn’t even lock anything with a hint of ground clutter so radar missiles were only useful above 3km. Boom and zoom was a viable tactic but its a support role.

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Cause I stopped playing the F-5E after it got spaded. The intercept playstyle, while effective, and over 90% of my frags in F-5Es [the Chinese one as well], it isn’t what I enjoy most out of aircraft.

The meta F-5E did best at is interception, which is what led to me striking KDR, cause dogfighting is not the meta.

The F-14 still plagues the game. They’re amazing planes for their BR even without the phoenixes. As things are the phoenixes are tremendously impactful for the team and split the opposing team up so that they can be outnumbered and torn apart piecemeal. By simply spamming some phoenxies down range from vantage points where no rival plane can touch them, players are either forced to waste time defending against the phoenix or if they’re a novice they fly into it. Either way the mission is accomplished: The defending team is split up and presents a smaller force in the furball once the teams merge.

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