The Pheonix missile should fall for chaff and flare instead of having 100% success rate

The F-14A and the F-14B plague 12.0 and sometimes if you’re unlucky 11.7 with the pheonix missile, it seems like the missiles always track no matter what, even sometimes through mountains and trees, when you chaff and flare, the missile doesn’t care, it’s as if the Pheonix could ignore countermeasures (which IRL it was way too early of an implementation to be as good as it is in the game, however the Pheonix Charlie did have an anti ECM functionality but only on the 14-B, the F-14A with the Pheonix Alpha should not have it )

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This is a severe case of skill issue.

You cant just chaff and expect the phoenix to miss, you have to try to notch too.

Its not particularly difficult to chaff a phoenix unless you’re in a brick

It doesn’t track through mountains, but can track through trees ( like everything can in this game).

I’d suggest watching some videos on how to notch and stuff like that if youre having troubles chaffing a phoenix

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You don’t even need to chaff to defeat them lol. Multipathing exists and you can maneuver defeat them.

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i wouldnt risk multipathing a phoenix.

Ive seen people die like that and with how easy they are to dodge, it seems too risky

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Meanwhile splash damage.

ARH missiles actually where tracking through hills and I haven’t seen any patch notes fixing it yet:

@AnaAbuSharmoota
try watching this, it explains have ARH and Chaff work:

im sorry but the one video on them tracking through mountains doesn’t prove much, ive honestly never experienced it

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Doesn’t prove much except that they can track through mountains. Just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t prove that it never happens.

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So you’d rather fly straight into the Phoenix?

Better than doing nothing.

  1. Its the only video/proof of this happening

  2. Its a MONTH old.

  3. If they can track through mountains, why isnt there a bug report on it?

im telling you, just because its happened once, doesnt mean it happens.

final question, has it happened to you?

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Don’t worry, they have already stretched the battle rating and weakened the base’s revenue. The next step will be to release a new gift package fighter. If the F14 is too strong in monetization, they will take action to weaken it.LOL

I said they WERE (past tense) tracking through mountains and that I had not seen a fix for it, there may have been and I just missed it.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1GXFk9rDEbUf
Also I have seen several post about it on the forums and they all just result in the player mentioning it being told their stupid and it doesn’t happen.

Yes, in fact I have had it happen a few times, I now stay behind cover until my RWR fully shuts off

F-14s never plagued the game.
F-14s were good at fragging new players, and that’s it.

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F-14 plagued the game on release (7 months)

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dont you think its a coincidence that the only cases we’ve seen have been from a month ago?

then i guess they tracked through mountains

Again:

If the OP said it happed to him and its proven that it WAS happening, and there has been no fix yet, I inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt that it did happen to him

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Yet I died to so little of them they were never on my radar as a vehicle to be threatened by let alone desire to meme on others.
I was too busy memeing on others using EJ, F-4 FG1, and EJ Kai. EJ Kai being the superior aircraft to use over F-14A by far.
Only F-14B and the Art Deco camo for F-14A would peak my interest for getting the F-14A.

An F-4J that can dogfight was never something that interested me when I had EJ Kai the entire time.

The only advantage the EJK had is a better radar. It didn’t even have the agile eagle upgrade.

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Which is all the advantage you need.
War Thunder stopped having dogfight meta when F-4E was introduced.
It’s been boom and zoom ever since, with BVR mixed in more often than dogfights.

The dogfight meta is so old I wasn’t around at top BRs when it was around thus only ever experienced the boom & zoom and BVR meta that’s been happening for the last 5 years.