So, the Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus is a World War II super-heavy tank from Germany. It has battle rating of (BR 7.7) which means it’ll fight other heavy/medium tanks from after the second world war. The Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus was built in 1941, and was produced in 1944, but was most likely seen used in combat. Which is why it should be a new battle rating of either BR 6.7 or BR 7.0, idk to be honest. Any thoughts?
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It can’t go down, it will just seal club and make the game not fun. Pretty much like the f14 did for air for over a year. I main germany and say this.
The problem is that its been powercrept into oblivion with all the new cold war dart/heatfs/atgm slingers that have been added between 7.3-8.3. It’s a meme tank and always will be. It’s not good for the game for a single vehicle to ruin an entire BR bracket, its better to just make that 1 vehicle bad than to make 100’s of vehicles have a bad time because they have to deal with it.
The best we can hope for is better match making ie 0.7 up and down isntead of 1.0. I still have fun playing the maus in a slight downtier were 8.0 is max and especially in a full downtier were you are 1 of 4 people at 7.7 on your team.
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Well that’s true, but it wasn’t used in the 1950s and slow, but It still be should be a lower battle rating, like even maybe BR 5.7 for it to be a WW2 tank.
The Maus is intrinsically garbage, no matter what BR it ends up at, it won’t be competitive.
Last time Gaijin gave us an event with somewhat period accurate lineups, the B1 bis clubbed so hard and with such total impunity that it was yent out of the event in a matter of hours, the Matilda then took up the mantle and got removed the next day.
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If gaijin would finally fix their game they could make it work
Only thing they have to do is split hte TT… WW2 and post WW2… done easy blance
Ofcourse you would need some fine tuning but the game would be way more fun…
Why not have the Maus be the top tank at WW2 TT fighing against IS-4s or T32s only?
No ATGMS no APDS/APFSDS or HEAT/FS so heavy tanks are finally heavy tanks again?
You can take out every heavy tank with “normal ammo” by shooting its side… we don’t need chemical ammo that can frontal pen everything at every BR
What about vehicles like M109s, where will they go ? That thing will OHK from the front.
What about vehicles like M41 that have smaller caliber APDS/HEAT rounds and nothing else ? You’d put them up against stabilized tanks ?
No.
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M109s should not have been added to begin with… maybe they could simply add some mechanic that actually lets them be artillery?
Does EVERY tank post WW2 have a stabilizer??? That is new to me tbh
M41 fighting T54s? where is the issue here? M41 has HEAT and can pen the T54s everywhere but the M41 in turn has “no” armor so it can be pennend and oneshot everywhere
Leopard 1 does not have a stabilizer either, same with AMX-30 etc…
It is possbile… but someone with a brain has to do it… dunno if the people in charge have such things…
pretty sure that just 2 hulls where ever built and they where made in 1944, not in 1941
just because it was developed in the 2ww doesnt mean that it should go down to 6.7
Implementing this for just a handful of vehicles doesn’t seem feasible. Removing them is also not an option.
If you want to shoot them out of the WW2 era they’ll be seeing those much more often.
Not all “problematic” lights will have HEAT, some come with APDS only and smaller ones struggle really bad with angled armor and will often do some weird things.
What about weird vehicles like M50 ?
Putting those vehicles up to face T-54s and company would massively hurt one of their biggest pros, the mobility.
theres a reason its only an anniversary vehicle, its unbalancable
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Why do you think it was removed in the first place??
Answer: Because it was/is difficult to balance.
Unbalanceable vehicle, the exact reason they took it out of the research tree.
The Swedish tree disappears in an instant with this sentence
EDIT: in fact it’s okay, there would only be ranks 3 and 4 that would become unplayable
And, in such a scenario, what do you propose the 5.7/6.0 tanks which would come up against Maus, do against Maus? Deploy dozer blade and dig their own graves?
This is exactly why Maus was removed. It’s impossible to balance. It either faces Cold War HEAT slingers and German players cry. Or it faces WW2 tanks that can’t kill it and everyone else cries.
It’s a no win situation. Balance is impossible. It’s been relegated to meme status and you should play and treat it accordingly.
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This is the reason why Gaijin removed it. It’s too heavy armoured to go down. Even if you dropped it to 7.3 could you imagine trying to kill it in a Jumbo 76 or T20?
Seriously more awful bait posts?
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Historical match making is the worst thing Gaijin could ever do. If it would go down to 5.7, good luck killing it with an American 75, or Soviet 76. War Thunder’s BRs are not decided based off of date of introduction, and never should be.
Matilda II would be the Maus of low tiers as well. It’d go down to like 1.3 if we use historical match making.
maus player here, i don’t particularly have any issue with it, except maybe facing t55’s which i can do almost nothing against, but that’s only one vehicle. even in 7.7 games this thing sealclubs everything in my opinion, and keep in mind that vehicles such as the t32e1, is4m are both at this br while being much worse