The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Expecting people to play as a team?
In this game?

Don’t be ridiculous.

Seriously though, you could give people a perfect guide in how to reliably counter anti air and the CAS players would still complain that their job is too hard and that they should have the upper hand without having to put in any actual effort

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Topic on a ground vehicle starts talking about helicopter LDIRCM. Also if you keep engaging with people who make personal attacks/don’t have an argument, you only further the problem.

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Compared to you i actually have the IRIS T SLM and i can confidently say that that can happen to every one of them.

Its not necessarily the most OP one its just the one thats objectively most overperforming over what its performance should be.

The reason people hate the MI-28NM more than the Guardian and the Z-10ME sometimes is simply because Russia can get its CAS off better due to none of NATO having an equal to the Pantsir S1 let alone the Pantsir SM-SV

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Plus there’s simply so many people that have the MI-28NM with LMURs compared to Guardians because the MI-28NM has been in the game for ages

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You know, you’re actually right.
I’d add a point about mi-28 being much more lethal than any other FnF LDIRCM heli, but in general yea.

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Well I spent over an hour being shot at by many different spaa systems.

63%… Where did you get this arbitrary figure? Do you realize custom battles are not representative of real battles? You realize it is far more oppressive and hard to hit while a Mi-28 is evading and firing missiles at you? The player shouldn’t rely on RNG and luck to score a hit.

In reality it is closer to 3% to 12% from all the times I was able to count the missiles I fired. In the end it is completely random. RNG should not be the deciding factor.

Did you try to fly defensively right after spawning or did you just fly towards the battlefield because the lack of RWR pings gave you a false sense of safety?

You could try to spawn on the ground and just use the old fashioned strategy of flying behind cover and doing quick strafing runs (if the map allows it, that is)

More lethal, trade off is less survivability. Yes.

And i spent more than that shooting at different Helis in actual games and i can tell you that none of them are completely invincible.
However none of that changes the part that you conveniently ignored.

This is more incorrect information by you.

We literally tested it while I maunvered, flared, hovered, etc.

You know as well as I do, that more than half landed, and lead to a kill.

Oh and your right, customs are more consistent, meaning the results we got are far more accurate

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Less? Oh hell no. Same at worst.

Heli LDIRCM is part of the problem with the Pantsir and it’s effect on ground battles

Guys this is a topic on the Pantsir SM-SV, NOT the Mi-28NM. If you want to discuss that go to DMs or another thread before you get this one closed.

What, in the fact you have the iris? I could buy it. I have all of Germany researched.

I just wait till the silver sales, no sense in wasting those millions of silver.

I mean, someone can make the argument that the Guardian and Z-10ME are better because the volume of missiles they get but the MI-28NM has existed for so long that more of them existed when LDIRCM and FNFs for Helis got added so it just beats out the two by sheer number of people who have it

It’s not entirely off-topic, it’s related on grounds of BDSM-SV being unnecessary addition.

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No the fact that its objectively the most overperforming of the LDIRCM Helis.
Double the amount of AGMs it should have
Fantasy LDIRCM Coverage
No problems with lofting

It’s an anecdote used for an example. It was used dozens of messages earlier but got completely off track from the original topic. How the hell would LDIRCM have any bearing on a SACLOS missile?