The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

all those terrain based fights in…

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oh that’s a cqb map

they’re all cqb maps…

ion even want Lmur or Lmur er, just give me a non fnf hermes and i’ll be good

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Depression, reload, reverse.

These are negated by 2E’s reload advantage, even if its for a few rounds.

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It can be a cqc map and you can still terrain fight another tank.

terrain fight someone on sweden and come back to me

The elevated platform on C.

where you get flanked because you cannot actually force the enemy to fight you over terrain and they can just drive around and fight you headon?

You cannot claim balance on the basis that the enemy is incompetent.

depression and reload arent gonna help in a 1 on 1 fight on a cqc map the reverse maybe would but still

and like i said the 2E has a 4 round ready rack and unautoloaded so therefore at a disadvantage still

The hills seperating the roads to the B point as well

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If you have the elevation advantage, you can breach the RU tank before he can even see your tank.

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Huh? They sure as hell do.

THIS IS NOT AN ADVANTAGE.

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If you genuinely think that while in a challenger with the largest forehead of MBTs i have nothing more to say to you.

Its just fact. I’ve done it before.

And i’ve shot down an incoming kh29 with a dart before, that doesn’t mean the L30A1 is the ultimate counter and far superior to the su30.

it is. because you put a t90 vs a challenger both on a level 1 crew the t90 will most llikely outload the challenger if either the ready racks gone and/or the loaders dead

the l30a1 is the ultimate counter to everything (joke)

Not a good counterpoint.

No it is exactly the point I intend to make. “I did it once” proves nothing.

i ALSO forgot to mention the russian breech volumetric and the TRUNNION agains the challengers uhhhh big forehead and no mantlet armour

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Oh yeah and the fact that if you shoot under the gun its like 60mm thick and you just get vaporised.