it doesnt need to, pretty much every top tier anti air is better equipped than pantsir to take out aircraft in real life, yet ingame theyre all gimped to hell and back which means nothing you shoot at dies and you have to fend off barrage after barrage of munitions, the situation is COMPLETELY artificial.
and this isnt even getting into the conversation regarding how sm sv gets its capabilities modelled perfectly after the marketing material yet we got a laundry list of issues with every sam at top tier.
this is just some of the reports about the aster 30 kinematics, this is ONE of the many top tier systems, and its kinematics are completely wrong, this isnt even getting into the seeker perfomance.
and its clear theyre not being honest about this whole thing either, when you look at things like ESSM sources being used to fix AMRAAM-ER and you get absolute geniuses replying “not the same missile” when its the same exact missile with a different guidance section
I’ve done worse things lol you lucky to find me even spawn once as I would straight up not spawning in maps I disliked. And your SPAA can die to enemy tanks 1 minute into the game without even seeing a scout drone bro that happens I about 3 out of 10 matches where there was no planes to shoot.
i want it for true air denial, allowing to counter multitude of missiles without spending much ammo, short bursts or even 5 shots at most are enough to take down a missile or a bomb, now imagine an ammo pool of 300 with 4 ready to fire air to air missiles and full TWS capability, on the hands of someone skilled its a really rewarding vehicle
Yet you haven’t quoted or even tried to prove what you consider nonsense. You just spouted a lot of random nonsense yourself, than only backtracked with reports on the Aster 30, that’s it.
Because clearly fixing the Aster-30 will fix the overarching problem of CAS, heliopters, and small maps that all contribute to the problem as a whole.
The only thing I’ve noticed is that people woefully expect SAMS to preform well on small maps, get mad when they surprisingly don’t, then think that fixing the missiles that SAMs use is going to change the fact they’re SAMS fighting on small maps.
ahead?, u know ahead has been consistently getting buffed right? and now its actually a pretty good shell specially now that is capable of intercepting missiles just like the CS-SA5
if things like Aster-30 are this exageratly bad coded ingame, then it should get modelled correctly.
as i said many times, i’m against the idea of having a single nation with OP things, it makes it less fun for others and especially for me if i want to play a different nation that isn’t the well treated one.
The SM-SV finished tests in August 2024. Hard to say if it has been deployed to Ukraine since then or went to serial production.
The SV is just a Pantsir SM but on a tracked chassis. The Pantsir SM finished testing in 2019 and has been deployed to Ukraine.
SM means Seriynaya Modernizatsiya or Serial Modernization. Truck AAs are mostly used by the aerospace force in Russia. SV simply means Sukhoputnye Voyska or Ground Force in English. It’s made to go with the Army with a tracked chassis.
Played a few matches against this thing and it is as toxic as they say, it’s borderline impossible to play against. The hypersonic missile needs to be removed, it simply has no business being in the game. I can see this AA being good at intercepting munitions with its subcaliber one, but the hypersonic missile is completely overkill and not ready for the game.
Equally CAS shouldn’t of powercrept everyone and should lose some of their munitions that they have also, along with helicopters as well. There was no buisness for players to advocate that end ethier.
Also it isn’t impossible to play against. I’ve run a few matches and noticed that CAS pilots have significantly increased in aggression. And like I said before, if you’re a single person facing it, you will have issues. If there multiple planes coming in from different angles, it can only focus 1 at a time within it’s 90 degree scope.
It doesn’t need the hypersonic missile, it should be played as an interceptor with its TKB missiles. It’s just not fun to play against, especially in a helicopter.
The chassis doesn’t matter much in this case as the mini-missles were the main stig of the upgraded system and are used on multiple variants, tracked, wheeled or stationary.